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I would, if those that controls the emergency units know their work - 40 firetrucks would make no sense and ambulances would come in a flow - not piled up. Toronto would still be alive and need support.
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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Local news says that both crew and passengers survived - only 14 injured.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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No confirmed deaths.
The 401 was partially closed causing a traffic nightmare, partly because survivors were running onto the highway while they were in shock/stunned/dazed/confused."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Survivor describes panic aboard crashed jet
CTV.ca News Staff
Describing the terrifying moments before an Air France passenger jet crashed at Toronto's Pearson International Airport, one survivor says the plane lost power before it hit the ground.
One of the passengers aboard the Air France flight 358 from Paris, France to Toronto Tuesday afternoon, Olivier Dubos, told CTV News there was no other warning before the crash.
"We didn't know at all what was happening. Really, we think the crew was as surprised as we were that we had to make an emergency landing," Olivier said.
"We had absolutely no insight or hint that the landing would be difficult," he added, noting there was some general concern due to the pelting rain at the time. "We just knew it would be a bit hard because of the weather."
Just moments before the landing, however, Olivier said the lights on the plane went out.
"The plane was going extremely fast and the power shut down completely, but we thought that was because of the rain ... Then we could feel were off road, and then it was really, really scary."
Once the plane ground to a halt some 200 metres off the runway, Dubos says there was a mad rush to flee.
"We were really, really scared that the plane would blow up because there were lots of flames," he said. "Everyone was running very hard to get out of there."
In a press conference less than three hours after the crash, Greater Toronto Airports Authority officials said all the plane's passengers are believed to have escaped alive. Just 14, they said, were being treated for minor injuries.
Debbie Wilkes, known to many Canadians as a figure skating commentator, happened to be in a slow-moving car on the nearby Highway 401 when the plane skidded off the runway.
Her attention had been transfixed, she said, because of rain and hail at the time.
"We were watching the storm unfold as we were stuck in traffic," she told CTV News. "We saw a fork of lightning come down and hit something... then there was a huge billowing plume of black smoke that emerged."
In the brief moment it took for the car to advance another few hundred feet, Wilkes said she saw that "it was a plane that had gone off the end of the runway... there were streaks of fire on the runway."
As emergency crews race to contain the scene of the crash, Toronto airport has been closed to other traffic."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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no deaths
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Sorry, no blood for you this timeOriginally posted by mrmitchell
no deaths
Good stories has been told before :
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Yeah, that's what I call a very lucky plane crash. Depending on how facts unfold when the case is investigated, might even call it a succesful. However it sure is a good showcase for how a plane can be well built and cope with a crash. Not to mention seems like the emergency operations on the ground were handled well. All in all I think we should be thankful, rather than blame someone. Indeed, the reasons to the crash must be investigated, but heck, why not grab a few cold beers and celebrate this honestly speaking good end?
Very few airplanes ever manage crashes well. At least without any fatalities.
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BlackCat,
do I need to remind you about Milan and SAS? Seriously, this case was IMO more thougher than the SAS case you refer to."Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - SolverComment
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Mind if I take another glass of red wine ? Haven't got any beers available
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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No, that Milan disaster was really a bad oneOriginally posted by Rasbelin
BlackCat,
do I need to remind you about Milan and SAS? Seriously, this case was IMO more thougher than the SAS case you refer to.
And if I recall right there has been a SAS flight that ended in the sea in New York - just as bad.
I don't want to start some "this case is worser than this" - just mention that sometimes good thing happens. Though, the Stocholm incident was actually a potential disaster.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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A plane crash in my city? How strange. I did not notice anything from my igloo.Blog | Civ2 Scenario League | leo.petr at gmail.comComment
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Seems like air travel has been getting really safe of the late: until this accident I had forgotten all about airplane crashes.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Toronto is a city of 4 million. It can spare a couple of dozen fire trucks and 100 ambulances if the need be. Easily.Originally posted by BlackCat
I would, if those that controls the emergency units know their work - 40 firetrucks would make no sense and ambulances would come in a flow - not piled up. Toronto would still be alive and need support.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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no deaths ... amazing. *drinks to that*
and what a nice european build airplane !
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Say, you think something like this would actually help in sales of the.. 340?I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"Comment
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