Smoke in 3 UK underground stations...

[Frozzy]

Originally posted by Snotty
If we catch a failed suicide bomber, do we treat them as a prisoner of war?

No. They are not soldiers. They'll get numerous counts of attempted murder and life imprisonment.

[Kuciwalker]

I think his sentence should be to be held up in a public square and laughed at.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
The Iraqi terrorists have been known to deliberately attack foreigners from nations with nothing more than humanitarian missions in Iraq. They don't seem to make the distinacition between the two, they're all invaders to them If the terrorists operating in Europe share the same viewpoint then Germany or even Greece could become a target.

I don't think you understand the motives of terrorist tactics, at least those that aim at foreigners in Iraq (be they western citizens or diplomats from other countries).

The Iraqi terrorists consider that anything which plays in favour of the stabilization of Iraq goes against their interests, as it favours the stabilization of the current government.

The NGO workers, be they American or Greek, contribute to alleviate the problems the terrorists cause. As they kill some NGO workers (and as they give the clear message that your nationality won't protect you), they scare current NGO workers into leaving, and more importantly, they scare potential workers into not coming.

Same with diplomats. Ever since the UN has lost his local director, the UN has stopped to have any significant role in Iraq.

Their eventual objective is to isolate the US, so that only the US remains, and so that the occupation (and the "collaboration" with the current government) will be much weaker. If they keep up with their quagmire long enough, the isolated US could even leave the country to its own devices, to its own civil war.

And this is exactly what these murderers want.

[Pekka]

I would have to agree that this would be one of the main goals...................... in my opinion.

[Tingkai]

Al Qaeda group claims responsibility for attack on Thursday saying
‘‘Our attack in the heart of the infidel British capital is nothing but a message to all European governments that we will not rest until all the infidel troops leave Iraq,’’ said the statement by the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades dated July 22.


Also, suspect shot at an Underground station.

[Zoid]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

According to BBC it sounds more like an execution than anything else.

And thankfully these clods botched the job, otherwise it´s be like last time...

[General Ludd]

Wait - the police restrained him, and then killed him? Britain is a scary place.

[Snotty]

Who knows? Police suicide bomber policy, shoot to kill perhaps

[lightblue]

He could've threatened to blow himself up or something when they were on top. TBH he wanted to be martyred, got his wish, let's not complain.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I think his sentence should be to be held up in a public square and laughed at.

If we take Islamic ideas of honour into account , then that is a rather harsh punishment ( though , for scum like this , it's not harsh enough ) .

[Solly]

"the war was done despite the disapproval of the population..."

You want our politicians to be populists? Mob rule?

Going to war against Germany to get rid of Hitler made us more likely to have been bombed - should we not have done that. Stupid apologists.

[Asher]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Wait - the police restrained him, and then killed him? Britain is a scary place.

Man with an explosive belt around his chest.

What do you think his first course of action might be if he was a suicide bomber with a bunch of cops piled on top of him?

What do you think the correct course of action would be for those cops to do?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Asher



Man with an explosive belt around his chest.

What do you think his first course of action might be if he was a suicide bomber with a bunch of cops piled on top of him?

What do you think the correct course of action would be for those cops to do?

There wasn't any mention about the possibility of an explosive belt when I read the article, and I figure that if he could to blow himself up, he would of done so instead of running from the police anyways.

[Asher]

Originally posted by General Ludd
There wasn't any mention about the possibility of an explosive belt when I read the article, and I figure that if he could to blow himself up, he would of done so instead of running from the police anyways.

He was trying to run onto the train (which is obviously more densely populated), and was tackled right before he got there.

"He looked like a Pakistani but he had a baseball cap on, and quite a thickish coat. It was a coat like you would wear in winter, a sort of padded jacket. It looked out of place in the weather we've been having."

Police saw a Pakistani man with a very thick coat on in the middle of summer heading on the tube, challenged him to ask him to open the coat, and instead he bolted to try to make it on the train.

What, exactly, do you think was going on there if he wasn't a bomber?

[Rasbelin]

Actually the explosive belt with wiring is mentioned by eyewitnesses. So yes, it's credible that he had it, especially taken how he got nailed, was chased and the police certainly seemed to have a clue what he was doing to do (read: trying to cause death and mayhem). It's not a situation in which you can start thinking about the deepest aspects of humanity, but you only have seconds to act. If you read the eyewitness counts, you realise he was pretty close to blow himself up. In a situation like that, you of course take out the f*cking bomber.

Edit: My keyboard is abit broken. My primary keyboard broke, so using a crappy spare one. The keypresses aren't recorded well, so some letters drop out.