Radical new policy idea for dealing with suicide bombers

[Pekka]

And Ludd is once again being an ******* as a bonus

[Kaak]

*yawn* can't a guy troll any more without being accused of backpeddling? is it frustrating to see suicide bombings all over the news? yes. Do i think that we should just go around locking a bunch of people up? clearly not...now, maybe if certain clandestine organisations just started makind people disappear...now that would be progress!!!

[General Ludd]

If you where really trolling, you wouldn't of said as such.

[Dr Strangelove]

At the current rate how long will it be before virtually everyone in central Iraq has lost a friend or relative to suicide bombers? By then I believe we'll begin seeing people willing to rat out these bastards.

[Pekka]

Or by US troops and bombs? I guess then the terrorists will have full support?

What I'm saying is, not that simple.

[Winston]

We need to continue with the countermeasures that are already in place, maybe strengthen the law a little here and there on what constitutes aiding and facilitating terrorism - and then we need to work on our own common psyche as "Westerners".

I don't want to seem insensitive, because I'm not, I'm as horrified as anyone upon seeing direct attacks against innocents, but I do think we need to get a sense of proportion on these attacks. They dominate the entire agenda of foreign politics, and much of the domestic issues debate as well. And I don't think they should succeed in taking over our entire collective "mind" and concerns. There are so many other things affecting the majority of people's lives and welfare far more directly, than terrorism.

I can't help but comparing the "enemy" we've painted out for ourselves now to the one I remember all too well from the Cold War. Now there was a conflict, of systems, of ideologies, of values, very few things during those days to bring us together, and almost every single aspect and condition of human life seemed to separate us. Those were whole continents split up along political divisions and locked in what seemed an eternal staredown based on the very real threat of mutual, and total, extermination.

And here we have an indeterminable number of fanatics, most likely in the thousands, who by their statements, their beliefs system, their occasional actions manage to "hijack" what hundreds of millions of people concern themselves with the most, eventhough we're a thousand times more likely to suffer injury or death from being in traffic than from the gruesome actions of the terrorists. At the height of the Cold War, during the early 1980's - admittedly by my own personal estimations - it seemed the threat from being in traffic was about on par with that from nuclear annihilation.

Something is awkward about this picture. I can't help thinking there must be some centrally positioned people who should know better than to allow an entire culture like ours to project so much fear and concern into what is basically the violent political campaign of a very limited group of people. We had political terrorism in the 1970's and 80's as well. Back then it was radical Socialist groups and others who set off bombs and killed people, took hostages and killed them, in Western Germany and Italy, France and other places. But there were other, more pressing and more present concerns dominating the political agenda back then. And that's the case today also, we just need to start realising it.

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[KrazyHorse]

I....agree....with...Winston.

[OzzyKP]

We should scour the Koran for some loophole ritual thing that can be done to one's corpse to prevent you from going to heaven. Then pick up the suicide bomber's parts with a tweezer and do that.

Trust me, no one is gonna sign up to be a suicide bomber with out the 72 virgins. That's the key selling point.

[Mr. Harley]

Dr. Stranglove - look at my thread of just letting the Iraqis have a Civil War. The Sunnis very stupidly started Death Squad activity, and even with Sistani telling the Shia no reprisals - there is some quite bloody ***-for-tat retaliatory killings going on. The bombings are just fanning the Shia hatred. Since the Shia have twice the numbers - and what passes for a government - the outcome is not at all in doubt. Maybe if we get lucky that will start another Shia/Sunni war accross the Middle East - maybe Molly can give us how many there have been - and they will be so busy in slaughter as to mostly leave the West alone. It will be just a little bit rough on the innocent civilian populations, though. Sort of like the third biggest war in casualty numbers of the 20th century, Iran-Iraq. People forget that.

[DAVOUT]

The solution against suicide bombers is not yet found.

Another problem is the taking of hostage. The logical method would be to convince the terrorists that they can obtain nothing in exchange of the hostage, and this can be achieved only if the hostage has demanded in writing, before the event, that in case he would be taken he authorized nobody, from public authorities or privately, to discuss about him with the terrorists.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
We should scour the Koran for some loophole ritual thing that can be done to one's corpse to prevent you from going to heaven. Then pick up the suicide bomber's parts with a tweezer and do that.

Trust me, no one is gonna sign up to be a suicide bomber with out the 72 virgins. That's the key selling point.

Weren't the Israelis at one point wrapping their remains in pigskin or something? That may do the trick...

[mrmitchell]

Of those London bombers that have been identified, what have their families said? I don't think any have said they had any indication at all that the bomber could have ever been a terrorist. Kaak I think many bombers' families are as surprised by an attack as the victims are.

[Vanguard]

If your brother commited an act of terrorism, would you want to be punished for it?

Right. Enough said.

[Spiffor]

We should scour the Koran for some loophole ritual thing that can be done to one's corpse to prevent you from going to heaven. Then pick up the suicide bomber's parts with a tweezer and do that.

The priests would rationalize it awy, by saying that anything done by the infidels doesn't count in Allah's eyes or something.

[mrmitchell]

The priests would rationalize it awy, by saying that anything done by the infidels doesn't count in Allah's eyes or something.

Spiffor is correct. IIRC suicide bombers are already dumping all over the Koran but it's ok! because they are in a JIHAD. Principles come second to the jihad.

Kaak, the problem is not suicide bombing. Suicide bombing is a symptom of the problem. The problem is the state that the middle east is in. We must attack the causes of the problem to fix it.