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**Lawrence of Arabia** · July 24, 2005, 04:12

Originally posted by Spiffor

Pour vous, les francais, vous l'adresseriez comme "l'Incomparable"

ROMPER LES RANGS!

**Alexander's Horse** · July 24, 2005, 05:13

they're all on drugs so you could hardly call Armstrong the world's greatest athlete.

**Drake Tungsten** · July 24, 2005, 05:56

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**Alexander's Horse** · July 24, 2005, 06:05

Your point?

That Armstrong is doped to the eyeballs like Shane Warne?

**Drake Tungsten** · July 24, 2005, 06:18

Don't really have a point...

Anyway, Armstrong may indeed be doped up, but we don't really know as he's been smart enough to avoid getting caught, unlike Warne.

**Zopperoni** · July 24, 2005, 06:53

Originally posted by alva
The good thing is that all of you yanks will forget about cycling now.

Hm, there are five Americans in the top twenty of the Tour (Armstrong, Leipheimer, Landis, Hincapie, and Julich).

**Alexander's Horse** · July 24, 2005, 07:39

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Anyway, Armstrong may indeed be doped up, but we don't really know as he's been smart enough to avoid getting caught, unlike Warne.

I hope you don't expect me to defend our Shane.

**JohnT** · July 24, 2005, 07:59

To answer the OP, I vote "Yes".

**Alexander's Horse** · July 24, 2005, 08:54

Shane Warne is a genius, more in the Tiger Woods category than an athlete.

**Drake Tungsten** · July 24, 2005, 10:43

Are you saying that cricket, like golf, is not a real sport and cricketers, like golfers, are not real athletes?

**alva** · July 24, 2005, 12:32

Originally posted by Zopperoni

Hm, there are five Americans in the top twenty of the Tour (Armstrong, Leipheimer, Landis, Hincapie, and Julich).

Shhh!!! not so loud!!!
They've never heard of them, so why should we tell them.

**Flubber** · July 24, 2005, 15:43

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia

thomas voeckler also had the maillot blanc until the last time trial, and this year he is also like two hours behind.

So what ?? It doesn't follow at all that what happened to one rider will happen to another.

Besides wasn't Voeklers lead a result of a long break that no one chased? A situation where he got a huge lead but then lost time on almost every stage after that ??

**Hueij** · July 24, 2005, 16:14

I was impressed by Vino today.

And congrats to Armstrong, the best cyclist of the last few years. (Though I still think Mer...

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**Flubber** · July 24, 2005, 16:39

Originally posted by Hueij
I was impressed by Vino today.

Yup -- it was almost as though he was putting on an impressive "audition" for potential buyers of his services

**Lawrence of Arabia** · July 24, 2005, 16:48

So what ?? It doesn't follow at all that what happened to one rider will happen to another.

Besides wasn't Voeklers lead a result of a long break that no one chased? A situation where he got a huge lead but then lost time on almost every stage after that ??

thats already TWO riders.

In 2003, Dennis Menchov won the maillot blanc. In 2004. he didnt even finish the race.

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