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  • Now, think of Francesco Mancebo.

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    • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
      Are you saying that cricket, like golf, is not a real sport and cricketers, like golfers, are not real athletes?
      No I'm saying Shane is fat.

      Who won the green jersey?
      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • Thor Hushovd, the Norwegian guy.

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        • hard for the sprinters on a skating rink.
          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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          • vinokourov scrwed it for ogrady.
            "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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            • He needed sixteen points more than Hushovd. He wasn't going to bridge that gap.

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              • 35 for winning the final sprint and 12 for first place in the intermediate sprints. out of those 47, vinokourov took 41
                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                  vinokourov scrwed it for ogrady.
                  Following that reasoning, Armstrong ruined it for Basso..Basso for Ulrich and so on.
                  Ogrady ruined it for Ogrady.

                  Sad to see a green jersey not winning one decent sprint though, Mcewen would have deserved it alot more.
                  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                  Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                  • If only McEwen hadn't head butted O'Grady, he probably would have won a 3rd straight Green Jersey.
                    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                    • Jury c*ck-up... O'Grady clearly elbowed McEwen as well, so it should've been "both or none".

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                      • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


                        thats already TWO riders.

                        In 2003, Dennis Menchov won the maillot blanc. In 2004. he didnt even finish the race.
                        What do you have against popyvych?? I don't care if the last 10 white jersey winners went on to be great or conversely went on to be nothings. I just see a good rider with potential.
                        You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                        • Following that reasoning, Armstrong ruined it for Basso..Basso for Ulrich and so on.
                          Ogrady ruined it for Ogrady.

                          Sad to see a green jersey not winning one decent sprint though, Mcewen would have deserved it alot more.

                          uuuh no. thats totally different. Vinokourov wasnt in the sprinters race at all. Armstrong was in the yellow jersey race, so he didnt screw up Basso or Ullrich, he just beat them. If Perrerio needed 20 points in the final mountain stage and armstrong went out and got them for himself enroute to taking the stage, then he screwed it up for Pereiro.

                          What do you have against popyvych?? I don't care if the last 10 white jersey winners went on to be great or conversely went on to be nothings. I just see a good rider with potential.
                          so i guess that means my original statement

                          dont expect popvych to do as well next year as trhis year. last years maillot blanc winner is now two hours behind lance armstrong. he finished in the top 10 last year i think.

                          would be correct. in fact, i'll bet you $10 that popvych does not win the maillot blanc next year.
                          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                          • He wouldn't have won it this year either if Valverde stayed healthy.

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                            • another excellent point.
                              "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                              • It doesn't have to take anything away from Popovych though. In these days of hyper-speciality, the game plan has taken over as the determinant factor in TdF success.

                                There might be no Hincapie in the spring classics, no Basso in the Giro, and Mayo might have actually learned something of his mistakes this year. Popovych will follow a different trajectory as well if he's going to be the team captain for DSC.

                                The team chiefs will also be an "x-factor". Bruyneel has a superb track record. Riis has proven to be a very competent team chief, while Godefroot is actually leaving the sport.

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