I want to be civilized

[Kidlicious]

**** wine. It sucks.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Pekka
And now you all go 'ohh but why do you want to act someone else just to impress some girl and she'll find out you're a fake'.. guys, it sounds like you're projecting your own fears or experiences or something. I don't know what you are even talking about. It's only a plus benefit that some classy girls might also like wine, there's nothing wrong knowing about wines adn then impressing someone with the knowledge. What's fake about that, it's not a trick I want to learn so I can hit the sack with some chick. I want to learn it even if there was no chicks, period.

Oh, that's different then. I thought your willingness to become civilized was goal-oriented (specifically, I thought you only aimed at impressing girls).

I strongly suggest you to continue sampling wines, tasting a variety of them, and if your memory is as spotty as mine, write down the names of the wines you enjoy the most.

A formal knowledge of wine is not necessary at all to appreciate it. It can add to the enjoyment only for some people, not for most. If you get to drink often and to drink varied wines, you'll have no problem.

[SlowwHand]

No one will know if you have proper wine if you'll just leave it in paper bag and drink from it.

[DeathByTheSword]

drink a lot of different ones...and if you want to impress go and try wines NOT from france...but from Oz and south-africa not only does it makes you look different but they are getting pretty good the last couple of years...although the best wines are still coming from france...

oh and quickly:

red wine = for guys and girls

sweet white wine = for girls

dry white wine = for guys and also girls but only for guys if the food is ok with it (certain fishes and whie meat)

rose = only ok for guys on warm days and BQQ

[General Ludd]

I don't want to know what you do with the wine that makes it gender-specific.

[DeathByTheSword]

wines are alive as thus have there own preference to whom shall drink them...

nah...it is of course just an opinion but after drinking quite some wine the last year i think this is for me and almost everybody i know a good division

[DAVOUT]

Becoming civilized requires a long effort; I have tried for 66 years and I hope only that my grandchildren will display a veneer of civilization. Cheer up, man!

[Spiffor]

Pekka:

In order to get started, here are a few ruloes of thumbs:

You can have wine during a meal, or you can drink wine without a meal. These are different experiences. During a meal, the taste of the dish interferes with the taste of the wine, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. In order for you to discover new wines, it may be better that you drink them without a meal.

Taste is the most important thing that makes a wine enjoyable, but it's not the only one. Smell, texture and colour can be pleasant as well.
Personally, I'm smell-sensitive when it comes to wines, and there are plenty of wines whose smell I preferred over their taste.
It may seem stupid to think about how the wine looks, but it's not entirely unimmportant. Just like a nice-looking dish makes the meal more enjoyable, a good-looking wine can be eye candy.
Texture is quite important. Not as important as taste, naturally, but intertwined with it nonetheless. A delicate texture that runs through your mouth like fresh torrent water will probably feel more pleasant than an oily texture

This may sounds snob, but it is only snobbish if you want it to be. Fundamentally, anybody enjoys eye candy. Anybody enjoys a nice smell. Anybody enjoys a good texture. Wine has the ability to please your senses, all of them (save hearing), and not just taste. The snobs aren't the only ones who have 5 senses

[DeathByTheSword]

texture...never really noticed that...or do you mean e.i. the difference between sweet and dry white wine?

[Pekka]

DAVOUT, no really? Are you 66 years old? I thought you were like.. 20 to 30.. now I have to watch my mouth more carefully .. this is your fault!

Good stuff guys!

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Pekka
DAVOUT, no really? Are you 66 years old? I thought you were like.. 20 to 30.. now I have to watch my mouth more carefully .. this is your fault!

Good stuff guys!

Please speak freely as usual I am coming on Apolyton only for listening to young terrians discussing the problems of the planet.

[Pekka]

yeah but I've been stupid and it's kind of embarrasing to find out the person you were being stupid to was someone you should have shown more respect than that. Well just for the record, I usually never mean the bad things I say, at least not about other posters

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Pekka:

In order to get started, here are a few ruloes of thumbs:

You can have wine during a meal, or you can drink wine without a meal. These are different experiences. During a meal, the taste of the dish interferes with the taste of the wine, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. In order for you to discover new wines, it may be better that you drink them without a meal.

Taste is the most important thing that makes a wine enjoyable, but it's not the only one. Smell, texture and colour can be pleasant as well.
Personally, I'm smell-sensitive when it comes to wines, and there are plenty of wines whose smell I preferred over their taste.
It may seem stupid to think about how the wine looks, but it's not entirely unimmportant. Just like a nice-looking dish makes the meal more enjoyable, a good-looking wine can be eye candy.
Texture is quite important. Not as important as taste, naturally, but intertwined with it nonetheless. A delicate texture that runs through your mouth like fresh torrent water will probably feel more pleasant than an oily texture

This may sounds snob, but it is only snobbish if you want it to be. Fundamentally, anybody enjoys eye candy. Anybody enjoys a nice smell. Anybody enjoys a good texture. Wine has the ability to please your senses, all of them (save hearing), and not just taste. The snobs aren't the only ones who have 5 senses

Word! I just discovered the wonderful world of wine myself a few months ago. And I´m on my way to become a real connoisseur

[Pekka]

Zoidberg, yes but you're only a hack trying to impress girls with tricks plus you prolly just saw Sideways so.. you're definitely a bad person. ...

[SlowwHand]

Why don't you pass that train of thought around, Pekka?
Maybe the "know-it-all" 19 year olds will take a cue.