Best NON-SF/Fantasy Novels

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Verto


Do you know how to say 'play', or novel in Chinese? Or any foreign language?

Er, do you know how to read message boards in English? Otherwise you wouldn't have attributed my words to Kuci.

Regardless of the Chinese translation of a single word, UR knows enough English to read Shakespeare in the original language, the commentaries and critiques, and, even if he hasn't, he should have enough general knowledge, especially at his age, to know that Shakespeare didn't write novels (a form that was largely developed after Shakespeare's day.)

[General Ludd]

I did a google search on a whim and found an article refering to Hamlet as a "prosaic novel", for whatever that's worth.

http://www.geocities.com/shakesp_marlowe/

[Kuciwalker]

I did a google search on a whim and found a website refering to Creationism as scientific truth, for what it's worth.

http://www.creationism.org/

[General Ludd]

I did another google search on a whim and found that Michael Jackson lives in a mansion with 16 bathrooms.

http://www.netglimse.com/celebs/pages/michael_jackson/index.shtml

Is there something you'd like to share with us, Kuci?

[JohnT]

Yeah, but the Royal Shakespeare Company, Shakespeare.com, Wiki, etc, lists Hamlet among his plays. I'm glad the guy on geocities can view one of the plays as a novel, but unfortunately for Google and your search, it was written and performed as a play.

Looking at the RSC site, I saw this little gem:

The phenomenon of disbelief in Shakespeare's authorship is a psychological aberration of considerable interest.

[Kuciwalker]

[Verto]

Originally posted by JohnT


Er, do you know how to read message boards in English? Otherwise you wouldn't have attributed my words to Kuci.

I was quoting Kuci quoting you. Excuse me for not taking the time to go in and manually insert a {size=1}bla bla ba so as to make that clear.

Regardless of the Chinese translation of a single word, UR knows enough English to read Shakespeare in the original language, the commentaries and critiques, and, even if he hasn't, he should have enough general knowledge, especially at his age, to know that Shakespeare didn't write novels (a form that was largely developed after Shakespeare's day.) [/QUOTE]

Clearly.

[JohnT]

Your explanation makes no sense. If you were talking to me, address me.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by JohnT
I'm glad the guy on geocities can view one of the plays as a novel, but unfortunately for Google and your search

Unfortunate for my search? You seem to be under the impression that it was meant to prove something. I just thought that, since you got so riled up about such a petty and semantic issue, you might appretiate being able to get worked up about a related article, too. Apparently I was right.


Here's something else for you to chew on.

Main Entry: 2novel
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian novella
1 : an invented prose narrative that is usually long and complex and deals especially with human experience through a usually connected sequence of events

[DerSchwarzfalke]

Did I miss something, or is there really a debate going on above me about whether Shakespeare's plays were really novels?

Homer was the first novelist, not Cervantes, by that logic

[Verto]

Originally posted by JohnT
Your explanation makes no sense. If you were talking to me, address me.

**** off, since it doesn't matter who said it first; by quoting it, Kuciwalker showed that he agreed with it, and should be just as capable of defending it.

Either way, I can find better reasons to make fun of UR than something like that.

[JohnT]

Get over yourself, kid. Just because you're too goddamned lazy to edit out "Kuciwalker" to put in "JohnT" doesn't mean you get to jump his ass for my comment. You've got something to say to me, say it to me. Capice?

And I think that the inability to differentiate between a novel and a play is a pretty good reason to make fun of anybody, much less UR. I mean, we're talking third-grade knowledge here.

[Verto]

Originally posted by JohnT
Get over yourself, kid. Just because you're too goddamned lazy to edit out "Kuciwalker" to put in "JohnT" doesn't mean you get to jump his ass for my comment. You've got something to say to me, say it to me. Capice?

And I think that the inability to differentiate between a novel and a play is a pretty good reason to make fun of anybody, much less UR. I mean, we're talking third-grade knowledge here.

1.) When someone quotes another's post, as is, with no commentary, this is usually recognized as a sign of approval; in other words, that person totally agrees with the post(unless it's clear he's using it to answer a question already answered, etc.) Kuci was clearly seconding your statement, so yes, it does mean I can "jump on his ass", or anyone else who quotes it as he did. And you can and did feel free to defend it.

2.) I am sympathetic to anyone who I perceive made a mistake because of difficulty with a foreign language. Perhaps this was not the case with UR, and I jumped on your back too quickly; if UR is simply a dip****( ) I apologize to you, JohnT (but not you, Kuci, you self-righteous ***** who was too lazy to make his own original attempt to mock UR).

[JohnT]

if UR is simply a dip****

... well, somebody had to say it.

Besides Asher, that is.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I dunno, what do you call the things he wrote? Say, A Midsummer Night's Dream?

This is awesome, you're taking your expertise away from the Computer threads and into Culture threads.

Either way, good show!