Communist Revolution in Canada?

[Kidlicious]

It's about time someone did something about Canada.

[Kuciwalker]

[C0ckney]

is your lunatic fringe group paranoid spiff?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by C0ckney
is your lunatic fringe group paranoid spiff?

My group is not lunatic fringe (it actually belongs to the mainstream of French politics, athough it's on the border between mainstream and fringe), but it's cautious already, and it occasionally believes that some very undemocratic things are done by our institutions (surveillance of political activists, media manipulation, and occasional scare about electoral cheats - which generally prove at least partially true).

If you go further left than my group, you'll find people who are incrasingly paranoid. Sometimes it's justified. Some other times, it's not.

[Ted Striker]

Can someone explain the whole Eurocom, "Christian Democrats" thing to me? I normally look at Europe as a secular place, where religion isn't looked upon for leadership. Is this name just a leftover from the old days? Or is there an actual Christian influence in this group?

[Traianvs]

it depends on the country
some still are quite religious, but in pretty much every instance it's not a decisive factor. In general those parties represent the conservative citizen that want things to stay the way they are.
christian values influence these parties, but then again, those values are mostly universal values anyway so that doesn't make it very exclusive

in belgium at least they might as well delete the christian bit of their party name, but for the sake of history it is kept. I can imagine though, in x number of years that it might disappear altogether

[Traianvs]

in any case, for us it's always funny to hear and see bush talk about god blessing america... that's so unreal for european ears!

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Spiffor

It can also be paranoia. Lunatic fringe groups are often paranoid. And paranoia can even strike more "mainstream" groups that are still far from the centre (although not as strongly as the real loonies)

'Paranoid' with good reason in this case. They are actually breaking the law simply with the content of their web site.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Traianvs
in any case, for us it's always funny to hear and see bush talk about god blessing america... that's so unreal for european ears!

Then you should find the British anthem quite unreal.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Then you should find the British anthem quite unreal.

The thing is, though, that's a relic of the british monarchy. While the USA, on the otherhand, was founded in direct oposition to that monarchy and the idea that a country's leader is apointed by god.

[notyoueither]

The presidents do not say that God appointed them, they ask for God's blessing on their nation in an expression that has become part of their political tradition.

[Agathon]

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Originally posted by Kuciwalker

I am soo going to use this next time you suggest that it is OK to restrict the speech of rightist groups and neonazis and such

Where's the inconsistency? I deny moral equivalency between the right and the left.

[Tassadar500]

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Originally posted by Agathon


Where's the inconsistency? I deny moral equivalency between the right and the left.

How does Stalin differ from Hitler?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Agathon

Where's the inconsistency? I deny moral equivalency between the right and the left.

Then you have very few grounds for complaint when others reverse your priorities and lunatics who seek to foist Marx on a nation by force are themselves bayonetted.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by notyoueither

Then you have very few grounds for complaint when others reverse your priorities and lunatics who seek to foist Marx on a nation by force are themselves bayonetted.

You have all the grounds in the world. There is no inconsistency. If you want some, then it is a prudential matter.

But I don't think these guys are going anywhere.