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  • July 3 and July 4

    Tomorrow is the anniversary of two decisive victories in favor of freedom and republic democracy.

    At Vicksburg, Confederate officer Pemberton offered Grant his surrender on July 3, with the terms of surrender completed the next day on Independence Day.

    Also on July 3 Union forces defeated General Lee's Confederate forces in Pennsylvania at Gettysburg.

    And on July 4 this year, let us also never forget the great risks that English Americans took when they declared their independence from Great Britain in 1776.


    The American Revolution created a republic that brought to the world a government that was antithetical to governments in Europe at the time that relied on "divine right of monarchs."

    The Union victory in the American Civil War determined that slavery would no longer exist in a republic democracy and had shown that like the Founding Fathers of the Revolution, Abraham Lincoln, and his numerous supporters, believed that freedom could only exist with strong unity.
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    The Great Patriotic War of the States
    Pwning the British in the Revolutionary War
    Pwning the Nazis alongside the British

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    • #3
      This Union soldier knew which side in the Civil War was in favor of freedom.
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      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MrFun
        This Union soldier knew which side in the Civil War was in favor of freedom.
        Umm, I'm guessing the Confederacy?
        "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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        • #5
          Why don't you get off the War Between The States kick?
          July 4th hasn't got sh1t to do with it.
          Hell, bring up Gay Pride. Fits just as unwell.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            I think July 3 and July 4 should be celebrated to remember those two pivotal victories of the Civil War just as much as we remember the American Revolution on July 4.

            To me, freedom and union go hand-in-hand and that is why I personally celebrate July 3 and July 4.

            Of course, I could ask you why don't you get off the "Lost Cause" myth kick.
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #7
              Happy 4th July guys! It's now 87 years since the Glorius Communist People's Revolution killed the Merciless Capitalist Imperialist Pig Nicholas II.

              Let the People Celebrate!

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              • #8
                To you my ass. It's different things.
                You want to celebrate a battle where thousands died, for no reason?
                Give me a break, and give it a rest.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  I'm not celebrating it for no reason -- the United States has survived as a republic democracy because of the Union victory in the Civil War.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #10
                    Ah, yes! Sherman's war against the civilian population was a great celebration of Freedom and war crimes.
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                    • #11
                      Or how about the massacre at Ft. Pillow, DD?

                      Both sides have their fair share of war crimes -- more so with the Confederacy when it came to killing captured black Union soldiers.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • #12
                        Sometimes in total war, harsh measures have to be taken -- could we have won World War II without bombing German cities filled with civilians?

                        I would not want to reverse time, and give Hitler any chance by trying to refrain from such bombings to find out.
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand

                          You want to celebrate a battle where thousands died, for no reason?
                          Well, it gave a back drop for an excellent movie starring Clint Eastwood
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                          Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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                          • #14
                            shown here..moment of mercy
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                            • #15
                              oh and almost forgot

                              one suck-@$$ movie

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