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If you don't know by now, I'd take that as a bad sign 
The reviews I read seemed strong.
The reviews I read seemed strong.
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It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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I give my opinion on the completed work, not just portions of it. (he says haughtily. )
But seriously, it could be the greatest read in the world up to this point but still be wrecked by a horrendously bad ending. If I told you to get this book on your way home from work today, and you did, and tonight I read something that makes the entire novel idiotic, I'd be kind of embarassed for having recommended it.
Right now it's good but nothing spectacular. I feel that if I were more grounded in the classics I would get a lot more out of these books, but for now I'm more noticing the similarities between this series and the Hyperion/Endymion series than I am the interplay and uses of the classics.Comment
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But you missed the corollary: If Imran says soOriginally posted by JohnT
It doesn't meet Criteria #2.
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Yep... I got through 2 chapters of Blue Mars. Red Mars is kind of fun because it deals with how people may deal with colonization, but then it goes into socialist utopia land and gets snoozy.Orignally posted by Mr. Fun
How can Green Mars and Blue Mars be so badly written compared to Red Mars, when they're all part of the same trilogy and by the same author?
I noticed that Imran has also made this point but now I'm curious on what basis you two make this point.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Nobody's mentioned Olaf Stapledon yet. Last and First Men and The Starmaker are pretty damn ambitious. He misses the mark on so many things (man not leaving the planet for millenia to come), but the scope is so friggin' huge. Not everyone's cup o' tea, for sure, but rewarding for me.Comment
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Eco-Economics.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
But you missed the corollary: If Imran says so.
Yep... I got through 2 chapters of Blue Mars. Red Mars is kind of fun because it deals with how people may deal with colonization, but then it goes into socialist utopia land and gets snoozy.
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Yeah, totally snoozeable. I don't want to read a political play in my sci-fi novels. If you want to make a political point, make it as part of an interesting story. Bah!“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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@Kropotkin : The danish title is "Krigen mod salamandrene", and according to wikipedia, both titles are recognized
- and yes, both that and Krakatit are very good satires. Wether they are to be considered as SF or not is probably a matter of taste - they certainly isn't hardcore science as the computer in Foundation part 4/5 (hello satan, gimme such an interface and my sisters soul is yours ), but they are certainly fiction with an unknown factor thrown in - for certain, they are not fantasy since there are no gods or magic involved, just some weired creatures that learn how to blow up things .
Some have mentined Historical "what if's", but sadly, I haven't been near many of them, except the Orion series of Ben Bova. To be true, Orion's job is to maintain status quo, so he has to travel in time to fix things. It may be closer to Fantasy, but it is in the realm of the normal world, so I will not call it fantasy.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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And a brilliant thread it was.Originally posted by JohnT
Damn... that thread is 2 1/2 years old.
And I still would argue so.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
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If it's that good, then why don't you bump it ?Originally posted by GePap
And a brilliant thread it was.
And I still would argue so.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Because it's in the archives.Comment
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That shouldn't be a problem to an appropriate programmed system.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Except that every thread in the archives is closed.Comment
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Thanks for the insights, JohnT, Rah and Imran.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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I didn't find Blue Mars that bad, then again, thats probably because I liked the socialist stuff...Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, totally snoozeable. I don't want to read a political play in my sci-fi novels. If you want to make a political point, make it as part of an interesting story. Bah!
BTW: how do you do spoiler tags?Comment
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