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And why didn't the author ever write a fourth book, Gay Pride Mars? 
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Pwnage by teh CoolidgeOriginally posted by Imran Siddiqui
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Uh... Star Wars is not considered science fiction?Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well I find the Star Wars novels in the Science Fiction section as well
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I mean, the books may be crap, but still...
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I've read lots of good reviews of this triology, so I bought Red Mars a year ago... I was quite disappointed and haven't yet been able to finish it...Originally posted by MrFun
I'm reading Red Mars for the first time, and I look forward to Green Mars and Blue Mars.
I found it boring, don't know why really... The story just didn't grab me... Maybe I wasn't in the right mood at the time... I'll give it another go sometime...
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A year or so ago, GePap started a thread entitled Star Wars is not Sci Fi!. Being that the thread played to my semantical-tendencies and that I was feeling contrary that day, I decided to play the role that Imran so brilliantly assumed in my ROTS review thread, and argued for GePap's side.Originally posted by Carolus Rex
Uh... Star Wars is not considered science fiction? I mean, the books may be crap, but still...
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Damn... that thread is 2 1/2 years old.
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I didn't say badly written, I meant not as enjoyable. I liked the concept of red mars, the characters and the plot, (despite some of the potification) But the later books suffer the same fate as many sequels. The characters got stale and I stopped caring. When you stop caring, the editorializing is no longer tolerable. I got through the second (out of respect for the first) but couldn't get through the third. For me to stop reading a book is quite rare, but this was similar to my experience with Dune.Originally posted by MrFun
How can Green Mars and Blue Mars be so badly written compared to Red Mars, when they're all part of the same trilogy and by the same author?
I noticed that Imran has also made this point but now I'm curious on what basis you two make this point.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Thanks for the link! Interesting first post, I'll read through the rest now.Originally posted by JohnT
A year or so ago, GePap started a thread entitled Star Wars is not Sci Fi!. Being that the thread played to my semantical-tendencies and that I was feeling contrary that day, I decided to play the role that Imran so brilliantly assumed in my ROTS review thread, and argued for GePap's side.
That explains Imran's smiley...
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Oh, oh... Dune is another book I have high expectations about... And since I also (almost) always finish the books I start on... It seems I might be in for another surprise...Originally posted by rah
For me to stop reading a book is quite rare, but this was similar to my experience with Dune.
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"Left Hand of Darkness"/"The Dispossessed" by Ursula K. Le Guin
"Dune" by Frank Herbert
"Gravity's Rainbow" by Thomas Pynchon
"Cat's Cradle" by Kurt Vonnegut
"1984" by Eric Blair"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Purist!Originally posted by Ramo
"1984" by Eric Blair
Shouldn't there be an "Arthur" in there somewhere...
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"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Spoilers for the KSR Mars books within. Abandon all hope, ye unspoiled who enter!
The second book was pretty much a rehash of the first, just without all the hot-bloodedness andOriginally posted by rah
I didn't say badly written, I meant not as enjoyable. I liked the concept of red mars, the characters and the plot, (despite some of the potification) But the later books suffer the same fate as many sequels. The characters got stale and I stopped caring. When you stop caring, the editorializing is no longer tolerable. I got through the second (out of respect for the first) but couldn't get through the third. For me to stop reading a book is quite rare, but this was similar to my experience with Dune.
Spoiler:
However, the third book was really more of the sort of intellectualizing that goes on here on Apolyton OT - a 500 page reply to the thread "How would you go about forming your favorite form of government?"
I liked them all to varying degrees. I agree that the first was best, but the closing paragraph (hell, the closing sentence!) in Blue Mars is one of the finest endings I've read in the genre. It alone was worth slagging through the preceeding 500 pages to get to it:
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It almost makes me wish I toughed it out.
Maybe when I run out of reading material, I'll revisit these. But there has so much good stuff that I've found recently, it will definately be awhile.
But Johnt, you never answered whether Olympus was worth buying in hard back.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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I told ya I'd answer when I finished it (~200 pages to go.)Comment
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