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  • #16
    they are not even in beta yet. they'll fill up the interface with useless stuff later on...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by aneeshm
      Nice theft of interface ideas from Firefox there . Now everyone who uses IE will say how the great MS "innovated" RSS and make it user-friendly enough for the common man . Makes me sick .
      Frankly, I don't actually care what browser I use as long as it does what I want it to. Your kind make me sick

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kuciwalker


        Frankly, I don't actually care what browser I use as long as it does what I want it to. Your kind make me sick
        You really have no clue, do you?
        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
        And notifying the next of kin
        Once again...

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        • #19
          Seems to me like he summed up the average mindset of most users. People who disagree clearly have no clue.

          (please don't ban me, UR!)
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #20
            Ah. Mr Microsoft. I was wondering when you would show up.
            Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
            And notifying the next of kin
            Once again...

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            • #21
              I thought it was fairly well-known that I support Firefox...

              The point is, Firefox was doing what users want. Now IE is doing more of the same. That's a good thing.

              I don't give a damn about the political bickering a lot of you get caught up in, all I care about is nice products.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #22
                The point is, Firefox was doing what users want. Now IE is doing more of the same. That's a good thing.

                Oh? Any chance I get to make valid and working sites without losing tracks of all the IE hacks? Right, didn't think so...

                This has nothing to do with political bickering, this is about IE being an inferior product and IE 7 isn't going to change that.
                Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                And notifying the next of kin
                Once again...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MarkG
                  they are not even in beta yet. they'll fill up the interface with useless stuff later on...
                  (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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                  (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hueij
                    Oh? Any chance I get to make valid and working sites without losing tracks of all the IE hacks? Right, didn't think so...

                    This has nothing to do with political bickering, this is about IE being an inferior product and IE 7 isn't going to change that.
                    I don't know what your problem is, IE 7 isn't even out and you've branded it inferior. Seems pretty political to me.

                    The devs have said publically they are improving CSS and PNG support in IE 7.



                    And I don't know why you have such a hard time creating websites, other people seem to do it fine.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #25
                      The devs have said publically they are improving CSS.

                      So far they only said they will adress the float problems. Min/max-width? Min/max-height? Fixed positions for ALL elements, not just a background image in the body element? Maybe, just maybe the :hover pseudoselector for ALL element?

                      Nah, why should they bother? As long as people like you are happy...

                      And I don't know why you have such a hard time creating websites, other people seem to do it fine.

                      Those other people must be designing for IE only then
                      Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                      And notifying the next of kin
                      Once again...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                        Frankly, I don't actually care what browser I use as long as it does what I want it to.
                        Actually, you should care. Browsers like IE can do what you want them to do and also do what you don't want them to do (spyware, virus etc.).
                        I watched you fall. I think I pushed.

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                        • #27
                          I still don't know how to access RSS.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #28
                            I'm with Asher on this one. Ultimately there are far more interesting philosophies out there than the "evil" Microsoft and the messianic GPL. Why do I use Firefox?

                            More secure, faster rendering, tabbed browsing, RSS-support, clean interface, bookmarks toolbar, cookie control.

                            If another browser does that better, I'll use that... brand loyalty doesn't come into it and means you'll just end up using an inferior product.
                            "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                            "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                            • #29
                              If another browser does that better, I'll use that... brand loyalty doesn't come into it and means you'll just end up using an inferior product.

                              But that is the whole point. IE is costing companies millions of dollars. For web designers it's a pain in the ass and who do you think is plonking down the money to make corporate sites IE compatible?

                              I wonder why mr. Microsoft has left this thread?
                              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                              And notifying the next of kin
                              Once again...

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                              • #30
                                I've been in a conference call, supporting a big-name customer on Linux of all things...

                                If Firefox had IE's marketshare, it would also be costing companies millions of dollars. Opera, too.

                                All of them have numerous security vulnerabilities, and you just need one to screw things up.

                                Opera sucks (though they continue to make efforts to copy Firefox's simplicity) because the designers so obviously "don't get it" in terms of user interface design. Go figure, because most of the Opera users I know are web designers who seem to forget that Opera has some of the worst JavaScript support out of all browsers.

                                Web Browsers are made for the customer, not for the developer.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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