Will the US lose the war in Iraq by running out of soldiers?

[GePap]

Normal people also make assenine assumptions.

Good to see you are so normal, kuci. The common American

[Kuciwalker]

Where was my asinine assumption?

That you should hate the actual evil more than the hypocrite?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
So you're saying that the positives mean nothing. Only the negatives.

No, I'm saying that it's pretty flat year over year

Over 5 years the trend is obvious though.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Where was my asinine assumption?

That you should hate the actual evil more than the hypocrite?

No, that "normal people are stupid"

[Kuciwalker]

That's actually a rather reasonable conclusion from your statement.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


No, I'm saying that it's pretty flat year over year

Over 5 years the trend is obvious though.

OK. If you ignore the backlash against Iraq, I suppose you can dismiss 2004. What, were all the surveys similarly misreporting a down tick? Or are most of this year's falsely reporting an up tick?

What was that saying? Something about liars, damn liars, and statistics?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
That's actually a rather reasonable conclusion from your statement.

Actually, no, since "hate" is an emotion, and thus inherently unreasonable and irrational.

Rationally or logically speaking, most people should not give a damn since say China's treatment of the Tibetans has just as much to do with their lives, or what will matter in their lives, as the US's treatment of people in Guantanamo, ie. NONE.

That of course is different from Ethically speaking, in whcih case you deplore China and castigate the US.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


OK. If you ignore the backlash against Iraq, I suppose you can dismiss 2004. What, were all the surveys similarly misreporting a down tick? Or are most of this year's falsely reporting an up tick?

What was that saying? Something about liars, damn liars, and statistics?

Huh? I'm saying that there is insufficient evidence for an uptick. It falls inside the realm of statistical uncertainty. The bounds of experimental error do not allow us to report any signinficant upward or downward trend over the last year in any except a couple of countries.

I don't know how else to put it.

[notyoueither]

I think you are putting it in the bleakest light possible already, so I am sure you do not know how to make it worse.

[Alexander's Horse]

The coalition has been suffering troop shortages from day one and they will get worse.

But that may not be a bad thing - there is no military solution, either in Iraq or more widely. This is a political/ security/ intelligence/ law enforcement problem. The insurgency in Iraq or Afghanistan or elsewhere has inexhaustible supplies of cannon fodder aka martyrs. This is the central difference between the US and its allies - even on the ground in Iraq the allies treat the problem in a very different way.

The sooner the US is weaned off seeing terrorism as a "war" to be fought with troops, the better.

The best if imperfect example is Palestine where progress is being made through political means.

Everybody needs something to live for.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
The reason for this, I've been told, is because the rest of the planet knows it can't do jack when it comes to changing internal Chinese policies — they can complain all they want, but it won't matter much because China isn't exactly a representative democracy nor transparent.

While the PRC is progressing the US is regressing.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I think you are putting it in the bleakest light possible already, so I am sure you do not know how to make it worse.

Bleak? I'm saying that there's insufficient evidence for a change over the past year and that's bleak?

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
The coalition has been suffering troop shortages from day one and they will get worse.

But that may not be a bad thing - there is no military solution, either in Iraq or more widely. This is a political/ security/ intelligence/ law enforcement problem. The insurgency in Iraq or Afghanistan or elsewhere has inexhaustible supplies of cannon fodder aka martyrs. This is the central difference between the US and its allies - even on the ground in Iraq the allies treat the problem in a very different way.

The sooner the US is weaned off seeing terrorism as a "war" to be fought with troops, the better.

The best if imperfect example is Palestine where progress is being made through political means.

Everybody needs something to live for.

[MOBIUS]

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by GePap
Actually, no, since "hate" is an emotion, and thus inherently unreasonable and irrational.

I'm sorry I originally assumed people were intelligent and rational. I agree, that was asinine