SW:TPM questions

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Pop density same as manhattan? Gotta be way higher, since you don't see the bottoms of the buildings.

It's also possible that some of the poor peope live underground, like in the underground of Taris.

[Jaguar]

Well, we always see the most "downtown" areas of Coruscant. I'd assume that the Senate and the Jedi Temple and such are near the largest buildings.

I say it's a population of 10 trillion minimum, and several quadrillian at the maximum.

[Kuciwalker]

From the pictures of space and everything written about it, the entire planet is just like that.

[Nostromo]

*Triumph points and laugh at you all*

[Boris Godunov]

According to the KOTOR game, Tatooine was originally a mining colony, but was not very successful. So those who settled there took up moisture farming, and it became a haven for outlaws thanks to its remote location at the edge of th galaxy.

The population of Coruscant is, ulitmately, impossible to determine, due to the existence of an undocumented populace in the lowest levels of the city. But according to wiki:

The population is variously stated as 176 billion, 1 trillion, or 1 quadrillion. The smaller figures are illogical, but more often stated. However, the G-canon source, Inside the Worlds of Episode I states that Coruscant has a population of 1 trillion. Film estimates based on the apparent depth of the cityscape and its literally globe-spanning extent suggest a population density that, applied over the entire surface area of Coruscant would suggest a population probably in the several quadrillion (1e16-1e15) range and certainly no less than several hundred trillions (1e15-1e14). These estimates have been performed by Star Wars fan scholar Curtis Saxton, and other technical-minded fans on many separate occasions. It remains to be seen if later generations of official publications will reflect figures similar to those presented by the scale of Coruscant in the movies.

[Jaguar]

1 trillion or less is ridiculous. There are probably a couple million people in any given shot of Coruscant from the movies.

[Dr Strangelove]

In some of the expanded universe books Tatooine was supposedly dominated by the Hutt and used for smuggling prior to the empire.


How could a desert planet evolve an atmosphere capable of supporting large animal life? The activity of microbes within the oceans of our water covered planet required billions of years to evolve an atmosphere capable of supporting the current types of aquatic and terrestrial animals.

[JohnT]

It was the worms, Dr. Strangelove.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Jaguar
1 trillion or less is ridiculous. There are probably a couple million people in any given shot of Coruscant from the movies.

And why would we not assume vast parts of that City space are needed for life support? (vast air conditioting, food distribution, waste management certainly) then more space for transportation and storage, then some more for industry, then more for common spaces, like parks, and to finish it off, why do we assume people there would not live in vast, spacious apartments?

In the Asimov series, Trantor was a global City with a population of 40 Billion.

1 trillion? thinks of the heat polution form what would be needed to maintain them.

[Drake Tungsten]

It was the worms, Dr. Strangelove.

The Great Maker provides all...

[Commy]

Also, keep in mind that, given the technology, it is very possible that oxygen was created when humans arrived on the planet...

It is possible (although unlikely) that microbes came from another planet due to an asteroid or meteor...

Or, while it is a stretch, animals very easily could have been brought to the planet as "livestock" to create food for large metropolises like Coruscant...

Although, I will say, some of the shots in the Star Wars movie show lots of areas simply with waste or industry or smokey smokestacks...IIRC in episode 1 (maybe 2) there is a time where you actually see the desert ground of Coruscant...

[Jaguar]

Do the math. Coruscant is at least as dense in population as Manhattan. The buildings are about five times higher, so that's an extremely conservative estimate. If the city is as densely populated as Manhattan, there are at least 10 trillion people there.

[GePap]

And on what exactly do you base your statement that any square mile of Corusant is as densely populated as Manhattan, first of all? Why would you assume that your average Corusant citizen lives in equally small spaces?

Second, the biggest buildings in Manhattan are not residential. Go to Midtown at night, and the population density is very small.

And, given that Corrusant is an entire planet City, one must assume that the life control aspect of everyday life that Planet earth so conviniently does for us for free must be run in Corrusant, like air quality, specially if those buildings are so high they need to be pressurized in their higher floors.

That takes space.

And how much space in those huge buildings is taken up simply by safety, plumbing, elevators (which are tyhe single largest limit on actuasl building height), so forth and so on?

[JohnT]

What GePap is saying though is that Manhattan can be Manhattan because of the surrounding countryside. When there's no countryside (no trees, no animals, etc), something has to replace it in order to support all those people. For example, as already been mentioned you have a HUGE oxygen/carbon dioxide issue when you have no trees.

Me, I counted 98,434,993,452 people - but I blinked a couple of times and might've missed 250,000,000 or so.

[JohnT]

X-post.

Er... whatever.