SW:TPM questions

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by GePap



In the Asimov series, Trantor was a global City with a population of 40 Billion.

dude, you know this is another example of old time SF masters not having a clue

the population estimates for all the old time SF is rediculously off

JM

[Imran Siddiqui]

And, given that Corrusant is an entire planet City, one must assume that the life control aspect of everyday life that Planet earth so conviniently does for us for free must be run in Corrusant, like air quality, specially if those buildings are so high they need to be pressurized in their higher floors.

That takes space.

That much future (past future?) tech, you'd have to think they've mastered miniturization, meaning life support systems would be far smaller than they are on Earth in 2005.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

And, given that Corrusant is an entire planet City, one must assume that the life control aspect of everyday life that Planet earth so conviniently does for us for free must be run in Corrusant, like air quality, specially if those buildings are so high they need to be pressurized in their higher floors.

That takes space.

That much future (past future?) tech, you'd have to think they've mastered miniturization, meaning life support systems would be far smaller than they are on Earth in 2005.

Oh my. I agree with something Imran says about Star Wars.

[Geronimo]

Remember in his star wars universe Lucas likes planets to be basically simple scaled up versions of Earth geography and this probably applies to a 'city planet' as well. Coruscant has a population of 1 trillian residents sure, but this doesnt include all the people who commute there from distant parts and certainly wouldn't include the zillions of industrial droids who occupy huge areas where presumably nobody lives. Finally the planet might not be very big. Perhaps it was a small lifeless rock that the republic selected due to it's central location to make into the capitol and it's apparently near 1g gravity is simply artifically maintained in this no expense spared mega city.

[Boris Godunov]

Actually, Coruscant was once a vibrant, earth-like world with two large continents and at least one (or two) large oceans. Descriptions are inconsistent, but some have one of the oceans still "exposed" and used as the planet's vaction spot, the islands in it still untouched by the cityscape. No hint of this appears in the films, however.

[DeathByTheSword]

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[Last Conformist]

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[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Atahualpa


Brazil is very poor and yet has the biggest football stadiums in the world. Poor countries often put a lot of effort into sports.

Yeah, but the statiums are like in major cities, no? Tatooine doesnt seem to have a Rio or Sao Paulo.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Why do people settle in arctic and desert areas of this planet ?

Folks who settle in the arctic exploit the resources particular found in the artctic, like marine mammals. Folks who settle in the desert (like Beduin) live by providing transport across the desert for settled areas - or they live in the oases, and grow crops that do particulalry well there, like dates. They dont grow lettuce in the desert, unless theyre heavily subsidized (by underpriced water) farmers in the Imperial Valley of California.

[lord of the mark]

Re: Re: SW:TPM questions

Originally posted by MrFun


In ancient Greek society, some slaves were actually fairly well off even given their status of not being free. So why do you think this could not be possible in a Star Wars movie?

Good point. Anakin seems valuable, though its not clear what Shmi does. OTOH, Watto doesnt seem like the kinda guy who'd be that generous, but maybe thats just me.

[lord of the mark]

coruscant vs Manhattan.

Very interesting.

We are told in TPM that Coruscant is ALL city. OTOH that doesnt mean its all high rises - that COULD be just "downtown Coruscant. The rest could look more like Queens (about which more later). And GEpap is correct, the tallest buildings in Manhattan are not residential, and at least the core of midtown doesnt have all that high a residential density. OTOH you dont have to go too far (to Lexington Ave? 3rd Ave?) to find residential highrises very close to midtown. Not as tall, but then Coruscants tallest buildings seem taller than Manhattans. So if we assume Coruscants equivalent of 3rd ave and the east 50's has buildings as tall as Manhattans office core, I dont think wed be too far off. Plus we'd have concentrations of residential super highrises along the transit stops - (surely the aerial traffic we see cant possibly account for the number of commuters downtown Coruscant must get, esp if theyre completely non-residential.) The rest of the planet, lets assume, looks like Queens.

[lord of the mark]

Note: the population density of Manhattan is 35,000 per Sq mile. The population denisty of Queens is 20,000 per square mile.

Not as big a difference as you thought? Aside from Manhattans parks, non-residential areas, there are significant sections with large numbers of brownstones (town houses) and few hi rises. And public housing projects with large areas of green space, parking etc among the high rises. Etc. Queens, OTOH, has a fair number of hi rises.

Now do we really think Coruscant has a lower population density than Queens? Is Lucas using "all city" technically, like the US census, so that only "non metropolitan counties" are excluded, and a place like Cecil County Maryland is considered "urban" (actually "metropolititan")


OTOH these MAY be very large apartments, as GePap points out. We tend to think of apartments as small - but thats because the alternatives shape the demographics of who lives in apartments - singles, small families, the poor. Where there is little alternative a demand arises for larger apartments - thus Park Avenue co-ops have apartments with 10 plus rooms, including servants quarters. Given Coruscants high level of tech and development, its possible a large portion of the population live in Park Avenue size apartments.

[Last Conformist]

The word "metropolititan" is very apt for Coruscant.

[lord of the mark]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
"Where did LOTM copy and paste those questions from, I wonder..."

Made em all up.

6. Rich slave-owner.

Ever been to a historic plantation in Virginia, say?

7. That isn't a stadium I don't think. The race just goes across deserted areas of the planet

Opening shot - thousands of folks in the stands.

8. See also: Formula One.


Ughhh. Or Nascar.

9. What we have here... is a failure to communicate.

Evidently.

10. Strategy is probably discussed by holovid, while Sidious is doing his "you shall not know my true identity" thing.

I wasnt so much meaning how do they make contact, as how does a guy like Palpatine bear hanging out with a thuggish demon like Maul? I mean I can see Palpatine hanging with Darth Vader - their approaches are different, but an evil, subtle guy like Palp would still find Vader/anakin interesting. Maul is the kind of guy you send out on a mission, but you dont want to have much to do with, even if you ARE evil.

11. Everyone knows that desert planets have Spice.

Theres been discussion of EU as canon for SW. That may be the subject of my next SW post. With a twist on EU.

12. In Ep3 it is mentioned by Sidious that a powerful Sith (his former master, Darth Plagueis) was able to use the Force to literally create life. Although the matter is left deliberately mysterious, the two explanations which Lucas gives are 1) The Force creates Anakin as an effect of its imbalance- like Force homeostasis, or 2) Plagueis or Sidious were able to use the dark side of the Force to intentionally create Anakin to train up as a powerful Sith. Either way, Schmi would not have known the reason.

Again, it wasnt the question of how it happens, on the geeky technical level. It was more how does Shmi react to her virgin mother status. "damn I missed my period again, but Ive NEVER even been touched by a man - somethings wrong" "yup, shmi, the rabbit died, start furnishing the nursery" "ok, yeah, whatever"

I mean at least the Virgin Mary got like an explanation of what was going on. Having this happen with no explanation has got to do a number on a woman. "if im gonna get pregnant anyway, might as well have some fun" or something like that.