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Originally posted by Lancer
Paraguay should send in troops to restore order.
Paraguay should send in troops to restore order.
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own goal!Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
A traditional crop or not it is illegal in Bolivia to grow Cocaine. This is a law enforcement issue. Also no has claimed that the opposition wants to keep everyone poor; what has been claimed is that their policies & demands make no economic sense and will result in everyone becoming poorer. It's just the classic bleeding heart socialist nonsense which has failed every time it has ever been tried.Originally posted by Last Conformist
Coca is a traditional crop there.
From what little I've read in the media, it does seem the opposition is determined to keep everyone poor.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Ag, you're just making things worse.
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No one grows cocaine, Oerdin. The peasants in Bolivia gorw coca like they have for thousands of years. Coca is a major crop in Bolivia, not because of narco-trafficers, but because everyone there chews coca or drinks coca tea. PJP II was even given a cup of coca tea when he went there. It's hardly Bolivia's fault if the U.S. can't control it's appetite.Originally posted by Oerdin
I have no sympathy for drug trafficers and common criminals no matter what tear jerk reason they have for being a drug trafficer.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Proving once again that abundant hydrocarbons are a real obstacle to stable democracy. Apparently some Bolivians expect they can do what Chavez is doing - run a populist welfare state on hydrocarbon exports.
Are the resources comparable - I dont think so, but data would be interesting. I suspect theres a post-revolutionary economic failure in the making here. Which will somehow get blamed on the World Bank, the CIA, etc.
2005 - The revolution succeeds! Viva Bolivia! La raza unida, yada yada!
2006 - govt refuses to build pipeline through Chile, negotiations with Argentina, etc bog down.
2007 - pipeline deal signed, gas development impeded by govt policies. Other industries face problems. Govt blames globalization.
2009 - a wide variety of market adjustments and other factors (include the 2008 election of a pro-Kyoto US prez
) lead to a decline in world oil and gas prices.
2010 - riots in La Paz. Guardian (et al) blames NED. President Rodham denies US involvement.
2011 - free market party wins new election. Guardian (et al) blame US pressure."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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so why didnt morales run in the last election?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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2005 - The revolution succeeds! Viva Bolivia! La raza unida, yada yada!
2006 ff. Several other Latin American governments fall in similar revolutions. Latin America is run for the benefit of Latin Americans. White people complain.
2008 - Che Guevara is declared a saint.
2010 - Mexico goes commie.
2012 - Agathon visits New York with his commie friends and forces LOTM to switch from his favourite brand to the new People's Liberation Bagels.Only feebs vote.Comment
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I just love people who cheer on "revolutions" from afar. Can't wait to see the bodies piling up in the capital so that armchair revolutionaries can wear their red.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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Do you have a straight face when you say that? Neo-liberalism is what's failing in this case.Originally posted by Oerdin
It's just the classic bleeding heart socialist nonsense which has failed every time it has ever been tried.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Bread and Circuses“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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The indians should rely on their heretage and open a casino.Long time member @ Apolyton
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As usual you don't know what you're talking about. There is currently a 32% tax on all foreign investors in the energy secotr which must be paid on top of a 18% royalities tax to the Federal government. Half of the royalities tax is given by the Federal government to the local governments.Originally posted by Agathon
There's no reason for them to agree to a policy that will ensure that they never see a penny from the deal.
Given that Bolivia is the poorest country in South America they should be trying to work for every penny of foreign investment they can get. Instead we have numskull socialists trying to chase away investors and demanding that companies be nationalized without compensation. The only logical result of that policy is that no companies will invest to develop the gas fields since their investment would be stolen from them so there will be no new funds to help develop the economy or pay for badly needed social services. Leave it to socialists to kill the goose which lays the golden eggs before the first egg is even laid.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Given that Bolivia is the world's second largest producer of Cocaine (after Columbia) I'll have to disagree. They're mostly growing it to sell as part of the international drug trade. Now they're upset because the government wants to enforce its laws and clamp down on the drug trade.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
No one grows cocaine, Oerdin. The peasants in Bolivia gorw coca like they have for thousands of years. Coca is a major crop in Bolivia, not because of narco-trafficers, but because everyone there chews coca or drinks coca tea. PJP II was even given a cup of coca tea when he went there. It's hardly Bolivia's fault if the U.S. can't control it's appetite.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Originally posted by Kidicious
Do you have a straight face when you say that? Neo-liberalism is what's failing in this case.
I think neo-liberalism is in fact silent on exactly what the best price is for selling natural gas concessions. Its not optimal to hand anything out for free (better to sell it and hand out the proceeds) but if they want to take the loss, they can."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Golden eggs in Bolivia?
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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