Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries voted on by conservatives

[Agathon]

I love how you liberal looneys constantly harp on christianity (while majority of the time you stick up for the poor Muslims who are a peace loving religion...) and degrade everything American and everything traditional and then you call everyone idiots when they don't elect the guy you want. Funny how that works...not that I'm asking you to change or anything. I rather enjoy seeing Republicans control everything in the country and watching liberals flounder in their own rhetoric. Carry on.

How dare those Liberals stand up for evolution and sexual pleasure!!! Those bastards!!!

[Dextrose]

You are right, I see the evil of my ways. We must all join the ACLU in support of NAMBLA and the right of child molestors everywhere to practice their sexual preferences in peace. Even though I am an atheist, I am a conservative and therefore believe in God and Adam and Eve; this Evolution stuff is for the birds.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Dextrose
We must all join the ACLU in support of NAMBLA and the right of child molestors everywhere to practice their sexual preferences in peace.

You'd actually be alone on that, considering the ACLU has supported no such thing. So it does appear that being a conservative does make people prone to lying, after all...

[Dextrose]

The ACLU has gone to court to protect NAMBLA and their right to exist and operate on the internet. Supporting NAMBLA is tantamount to supporting their practices. Just taking one look at their site demonstrates that. A communist calling me a liar, simply hillarious.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


You'd actually be alone on that, considering the ACLU has supported no such thing. So it does appear that being a conservative does make people prone to lying, after all...

Actuallly no, I might be offended if you think so, anyway, Dex doesn't make sense and can't be called a real conservative (just to make it more complicated, european conservatives is different from american ditto )

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Dextrose
A communist calling me a liar, simply hillarious.

You're calling Boris a commie?



Shows how little you know and how much you presume.

[Boris Godunov]

Communist? See, you don't even have a clue as to what you're talking about.

And the ACLU went to court to defend NAMBLA against being sued in connection with a murder case:

http://www.aclu.org/FreeSpeech/FreeSpeech.cfm?ID=8100&c=86

NEW YORK--In the United States Supreme Court over the past few years, the American Civil Liberties Union has taken the side of a fundamentalist Christian church, a Santerian church, and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. In celebrated cases, the ACLU has stood up for everyone from Oliver North to the National Socialist Party. In spite of all that, the ACLU has never advocated Christianity, ritual animal sacrifice, trading arms for hostages or genocide. In representing NAMBLA today, our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children.

What the ACLU does advocate is robust freedom of speech for everyone. The lawsuit involved here, were it to succeed, would strike at the heart of freedom of speech. The case is based on a shocking murder. But the lawsuit says the crime is the responsibility not of those who committed the murder, but of someone who posted vile material on the Internet. The principle is as simple as it is central to true freedom of speech: those who do wrong are responsible for what they do; those who speak about it are not.

It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive. That was true when the Nazis marched in Skokie. It remains true today.

That's mighty different from your claim that they were defending someone's "right" to molest kids. I support your right to say what you want...does that mean I support what you say? Hardly.

The ACLU has been rather consistent in defending the right to Free Speech, for EVERYBODY, including plenty of conservative nuts. The simple fact is that nothing on the NAMBLA website ran contrary to any laws, as repugnant as the material may have been.

As a side note, I do find it amusing that the cons love to bring up NAMBLA, which is, for all intents and purposes, defunct. It has been noted that the website in question hasn't been updated since 1999.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Dextrose
The ACLU has gone to court to protect NAMBLA and their right to exist and operate on the internet. Supporting NAMBLA is tantamount to supporting their practices. Just taking one look at their site demonstrates that. A communist calling me a liar, simply hillarious.

So I guess this means that you would like to see hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan denied their freedom of speech as well?


I deplore the behavior of NAMBLA members and their twisted ideas just as much as I do in regards to Ku Klux Klan members. If you really want consistent, fair standards, you would have the same attitude towards hate groups.

So do you?

[Urban Ranger]

Dextrose, I hope you have read the FAQ about the forum rules.

[Agathon]

So Boris, when do you start sporting our badge?

[Agathon]

I guess this thread has been an eye opener for me. Before today I thought that conservatives couldn't read.

[DarkCloud]

There's no need to read when you already have all the answers.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Supporting NAMBLA is tantamount to supporting their practices.

We must ban the Klan and other organizations which may offend! Supporting their right to exist is tantamount to supporting their practices!

[DarkCloud]

[St Leo]

Originally posted by BlackCat
The worst thing is that they haven't mentioned the real dangerous books such as the bible and other kinds of religious scriptures, but of course, it's a list made of people that could be suspected of being religious.

The Bible, the Koran, and the Vedas get disqualified on the basis of not having been written in the last two centuries.

What do you suggest? Book of Mormon? Dianetics? The Kitab-i-Aqdas?