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To be fair, the air force and naval air units are almost push-button nowadays. Are many of these flyers any less ignorant of what war is really like, even if they've been in combat?
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
Oh, and then what about those political leaders that had war experience and still got into wars ?Originally posted by MrFun
Or the outrage of Bush dressing up as a soldier while ignorant about what war is really like.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Yes they are.Originally posted by DanS
To be fair, the air force and naval air units are almost push-button nowadays. Are many of these flyers any less ignorant of what war is really like, even if they've been in combat?
But the real problem here is the pro war media, your favorites, have been spinning the war furiously since the election claiming that "a corner has been turned" etc. and photos which show what a dirty little war it really is don't fit with the rosy picture they are trying to present to public opinion.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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That is just as bad, when the war is unjustified.Originally posted by BlackCat
Oh, and then what about those political leaders that had war experience and still got into wars ?A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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I don't know what pro war media to which you're referring. I hardly heard a single positive story out of Iraq all last year in the run-up to the election. Even now, the positive stories are few and far between, despite the fact that the sunnis appear to be coming off the political sidelines and the shi'ites have been studies in forebearance against an awful string of atrocities.But the real problem here is the pro war media, your favorites, have been spinning the war furiously since the election claiming that "a corner has been turned" etc. and photos which show what a dirty little war it really is don't fit with the rosy picture they are trying to present to global opinion.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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not paid your Fox subscription eh Dan
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Your view needs recalibrated to reality. Few Americans watch Fox News. I rarely have occassion to watch.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I suppose the same goes for the PBS news hours
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Yes, about the same. PBS Newshour only gets about 2.7 million viewers a night, even though I do find occassion now and then to watch it.
Anyway, so where's this vast propaganda machine that is feeding me positive news about Iraq that needs to be balanced by gruesome photos?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Murdoch - his media empire, which is not just Fox, has been putting on a very positive spin lately, clearly under editorial instruction.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Murdoch's news-related media empire is pretty anemic in the states. Who reads the New York Post anyways?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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ah, well this is the thing, what we get in the global media is a lot different from what you get stateside, which causes a lot of misunderstandings on these boards
and I don't mean all the international media is leftwing by any stretch, probably more the other way cos lefties don't own media empiresAny views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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I read the BBC News online and the Brit papers online from time to time. Can't say as I read lots of positive Iraq spin, although admittedly I don't go out of my way to find it.
Are you sure this isn't just your getting pissed at Murdoch, who publishes a rag or two in your neck of the woods?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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no I'm not pissed at em - they do some good stories and analysis - and I like good well written conservative analysis
I read The Spectator, can't stand The Guardian.
Maybe I'm not as pink and you might thinkAny views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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OK, so who precisely are you including in this vast positive Iraq spin machine that needs to be countered with gruesome photos of little children getting blown to bits and a POW raped (I assume that there's worse, which we will be oh so lucky to see)? A list would be nice. You can include only those outlets in the Anglosphere.Last edited by DanS; May 30, 2005, 21:17.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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