France to vote non on EU constitution

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Don't you want significantly more democracy in the EU? Like the idea that the main centre of power is the parliament, rather than unelected bureaucrats?

While the parliament is a nice idea, it is badly implemented and it has a huge information deficit.
Apart from discussing software patents, I don't know what they are doing there.

[DAVOUT]

You mean that non Indo-Europeans are not really European, because they cannot share the European identity. I have no solid opinion on Finns except that I have met some who were not apparently different from other Europeans. So i d like to know what makes them so different.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by DAVOUT

I have no solid opinion on Finns except that I have met some who were not apparently different from other Europeans. So i d like to know what makes them so different.

Read Pekka's posts in the 'Knife Control' thread.

I'm not sure he's even on or from the same planet, let alone continent.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
While the parliament is a nice idea, it is badly implemented

Yes. The Parliament's role is to tell whether it agrees or not with a some (quite a few)EU laws in the making. If it acted as a real Parliament (i.e. law initiative, government accountable before the Parliament), things would be much clearer, as well as much more democratic.

and it has a huge information deficit.
Apart from discussing software patents, I don't know what they are doing there.

Yep, but it's not exactly the Parliament's fault if the media ignores it. The Parliament is fairly active, and everything it does gets published (except works in progress). This info doesn't filtrate much in the mainstream media though.
A good way to know what the Parliament is doing is to wathc Euronews' Parlamento

[Pekka]

davout, hey what do you want? 3 eyes? What did you expect man? European Identity is still loads of crap.

Just because you enter out of the eurozone into asiazone and it makes you feel not home because there are lots of different looking people and hot and humid air doesn't exactly mean you and I have 'the same identity'. I crap on European Identity.

Surprisingly commies and lefties are praising after this. Get this to your heads, it's the feeling when two idiots meet, they feel home, because they met another ******. That's the feeling you have.

[Bereta_Eder]

The constitution is indeed far too liberal from what I hear. Maybe it is a positive thing if it is voted down. I hear that is the reason why the french who will vote no will vote no and that will be mainly from the left.
Interesting to see what happens.

[Pekka]

It's clearly not a popular constitution. That alone should make it a NO.

Of course you commie fascists would enforce anything if it had your back covered, just like the cowards you are.

[Bereta_Eder]

Pekka

[Pekka]

http://www.twilightplayers.com/photograhpy/LargePics/sinbadpainting1.jpg

Now that's what the lefties do in here. Put on more blinders and think you are the center of the world and I'll get a better target for my bombs.

[Bereta_Eder]

For the moment you are the center of entertainment

[Pekka]

What ever keeps you wackos going. It's all good and fine, you can do what you want, but when you start implementing the commie fascist plans that restricts my freedoms, you ****ers are in serious trouble.

[Bereta_Eder]

You must get Bush to sign your green card. I think they have special organizations in the US for people with your concerns With guns and everything

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by paiktis22
The constitution is indeed far too liberal from what I hear. Maybe it is a positive thing if it is voted down. I hear that is the reason why the french who will vote no will vote no and that will be mainly from the left.

Yes. This is the first time where a non-sovereignist Non would be mainstream. In the past (1993), the left-wing Non was much less audible, and most Non voters were motivated by sovereignty matters.

It has changed considerably, though the sovereignists will remain a sizeable chunk of the Non.

[Pekka]

You just worry about your own brothers. I'll start ****ing them up right after you have started stripping our freedom away. It'll be a pleasure to bash hippie face with a rock and kick them while they cry on the ground in fetus position. Iron bars, commando masks and hoodies will be our uniform. Think I'm kidding? I hate PUNKS, but what I hate more is freedom limiters inside free society. They are actually worse and do more harm to society than few vandalizing punks. I handle them, you think I won't get kick out of rocking few heads of lefties? It'll be like a hobby of mine. We'll see.. we'll see.. too bad it's not a crime to do it in here.. fines maximum.. ... I'll draw the first blood.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Spiffor
They ain't indo-Europeans, these little ****ers

The Uralics (Finns, Hugarians, Estonians, and some tiny languages in Russia) are way closer to the culture of their Indo European neighbors then many none European Indo European languages like Hindi, Sanscrit, or Persian.