PRC creates online propaganda units

[Az]

Originally posted by molly bloom
In short- China has done the same things that the U.S. , the French, the Soviet Union and the Britiish did, but differently.


Oh, and they were badarse commies too, so that makes it bad when they do it.

molly, while I agree that in the international arena, PRC can hardly be seen as the baddest player around, their internal structure of government scares me. don't you agree?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


There is one country in this world that has involved in 70+ foreign interventions since WWII to protect its interests dispite all the lip services paid to human rights and such. The country is not the PRC.

And most of those interventions actually restored law and order and/or stopped a civil war. Yep, that's such an evil thing to do.

How much do they pay you to work in the propaganda unit?

[Bosh]

Originally posted by molly bloom
In short- China has done the same things that the U.S. , the French, the Soviet Union and the Britiish did, but differently.


Oh, and they were badarse commies too, so that makes it bad when they do it.

*sigh*
Do you have to write out a ten-page disclamer that, yes the government in question is not the only government in the history of the earth that has ever done anything the least bit objectionable in order to complain about not terribly nice things as the government does?

This is just as silly as people defending Abu Gharib etc. by pointing out that what Saddam did was worse.

[Dinner]

China is a beligerent country but the problem of the last few centuries is its ability just didn't match its desire. This is changing now.

[mrmitchell]

Plato no "lib" here ever said China was perfect.

Besides, the reason people respect China is because 50 years ago, every Chinese had a rusty pitchfork and two beans. They have come a long way economically since then.

We have yet to see if socially and politically they'll keep advancing.

[Lancer]

I doubt they'll be ready for another 50 years. The Spratly islands thing bothers me quite a bit. China needs the oil and it's right there...

I don't know if the US would help the Philippines over the Spratlys particularly after the Phils kicked us out of Subic and withdrew from Iraq a month early. US might help though, which has to make the Chinese nervous about taking direct action.

[Dinner]

You are forgetting the Japanese. The Japanese have the best claim on the land if one looks at the last 500 years which is where we should be looking. The Japanese also went and burned down an observation plateform the Chinese built in order to fabricate a claim on the islands. Japanese ships routinely patrol the islands as well and the Japanese have a research station there.

[Lancer]

I wasn't aware that the Japanese were one of the half dozen that claim to own these Philippine islands.

[Lancer]

China and Vietnam have exchanged shots over the Spratlys. I believe China has come away better off in the exchange.

[DaShi]

No one can challenge my claim of the Spratlys! It's absolute!

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Lancer
UR

3. Really believes what he says, which is to me, the hardest thing to contemplate.

agree 100%, although he's not the only one. :/

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Az


molly, while I agree that in the international arena, PRC can hardly be seen as the baddest player around, their internal structure of government scares me. don't you agree?

Absolutely- in the past I've campaigned for the freedom of Chinese political prisoners, Soviet Jews et cetera.

I'm no fonder of state capitalism than I am of the rampant free market variety- freedom (especially in the developing world) suffers under both.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Oerdin


And most of those interventions actually restored law and order and/or stopped a civil war. Yep, that's such an evil thing to do.

How many of those 'interventions' restored law and order backed by an autocratic state system of repression, as in 1950s' Guatemala, which saw an American backed coup replace a democratically elected president with an army junta which went on to massacre Guatemalan peasants and Indians- all so American commercial interests could profit ?


Or Venezuela, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, Haiti- none of them notable examples of shining beacons of democracy after direct intervention by American troops, or American backed forces.


That's just whitewashing history- or propaganda, if you like.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You know, reading this thread... I'm not so certain that Agathon isn't really the propoganda shock trooper used by the PRC .

[Fake Boris]

China is the only real friend to the world's most reviled regime.

China is America's friend now?