PRC creates online propaganda units

[Bosh]

Originally posted by DaShi

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The paper cited an example of how the force works in practice, saying it might react to, say, online criticism of the police force by posting positive views on the law enforcers.

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Originally posted by Bosh
The Chinese government sends North Korean refugees back to the North to face death or imprisonment instead of forwarding them to South Korea or America. This is evil.

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


While you think it's a bad idea to try talking with Dear Leader to get DPRK open up more.

I genuinely beleive that the current China has no desire to start or partake in a nuclear war, and only wants enough as a deterent.

Right, they're not insane.

Dude, if you come from where I do, you will find quite a few older guys who were Japanese prisoners of war. They hold a grudge, and after they tell you what happened to them, it isn't hard to develop a dim view of Japanese militarism.

The Japanese have plenty of skeletons in their closet and the way their textbooks treat their army's atrocities in WW II is a disgrace, but its laughable to think that "Japanese militarism" is a threat to anyone these days.

God and enough of these silly "but the US does it too!" arguements.

[Dr Strangelove]

Would it be possible to use proxy servers and spyware to bounce treasonous messages off of the computers of prominent members of the goverment so that they begin to devour their own kind?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Agathon

Maybe cuz the PRC deserves it more than the US?

Hardly, it isn't democratic.

Therefore anything it does is perfectly fine

[pchang]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Would it be possible to use proxy servers and spyware to bounce treasonous messages off of the computers of prominent members of the goverment so that they begin to devour their own kind?

Certainly, but only low level members would not have the clout to protect themselves.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
There is one country in this world that's killed off millions of its citizens in order to support its ideology. The country is not the US.

The US is much more refined, it kills the citizens of other countries.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Bosh
God and enough of these silly "but the US does it too!" arguements.

When used to confront the ethnocentric views of the American right on these boards, this argument isn't silly.

[Ted Striker]

We have these here, they're just called Rush Limbaugh listeners.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Az
Oh, ****.

This thread is NOT about UR. It's about the concept of online government propaganda in general, and it's ethical value, esp. vis a vis other propaganda sources on the web.

Perhaps it could a new unit in Civ 4.


After all they had televangelists and subneural ads in another game....

[Ted Striker]

That would be cool.

Call it the Propagandist.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
That would be cool.

Call it the Propagandist.

I'd have my own versions- the Neddite for the secular state, and the Obigynist for the theocratic.


Both would have the power to suck whole cities or provinces into another dimension, where the research rate has a negative rating, and in the Obigynist realm, the birth rate rises dramatically but hunger and disease burgeon exponentially.

[Ted Striker]

[Az]

Enother reason why replacing pollution with health is a great idea.

[PLATO]

Okay...Let's review things for the Libs one more time...

1.) China has invaded Vietnam, India, Tibet, and fought against Security council authorized UN troops...all since WWII.

2.) China has vilolently put down internal disent...to the point of turning the military on their own people.

3.) There are political prisoners in China...lot's of them.

4.) China is the only real friend to the world's most reviled regime.

5.) China seeks to threaten, bully, and invade a country that has become very democratic...all in the name of a nebulous "one China" policy...very reminesent of Hitler's words about Germany before WWII.

6.) China now seeks to control the free flow of ideas on the internet through state sponsored "opinion forming". haha

Yeah...they are getting better, but they ain't even close to benign. If they can be held in check another 100 years then they may be able to join a free world community, but that day is far in the future.

Until then, a repressive government that has their kind of power is a threat to us all...not just the US.

[molly bloom]

In short- China has done the same things that the U.S. , the French, the Soviet Union and the Britiish did, but differently.


Oh, and they were badarse commies too, so that makes it bad when they do it.

[Lancer]

"This thread is NOT about UR. It's about the concept of online government propaganda in general, and it's ethical value, esp. vis a vis other propaganda sources on the web."

UR is so supportive of the despotic, anti democratic, Chinese 'Tienamen Square kill em all' government that he is:

1. Scared to post his true feelings because the internet police will get him.

2. Working for the Chinese govenment.

3. Really believes what he says, which is to me, the hardest thing to contemplate.

His reaction is always to counter attack, that's right out of the old Soviet book.

I have no problem with UR, I like him, but something is not right. My guess is he can't post what he really thinks...because he is very bright and must know what's up.