10 most rightist posters on poly

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Only if you define "religious" as "insanely bat**** crazy religious."

Otherwise, I think BK and Grandpa Troll win that title. Both are quite devout without being mentally deranged about it.

[SpencerH]

Most 'righties' here are libertarians. Its just that many 'lefties' at poly are so far to the left that they fail to recognize the difference.

Viva la partie Libertarian.

[Dr Strangelove]

Hey! Don'ty forget CivNation!

I think that Fez/Giancarlo and Albert Speers would have to rank as the most right-winged of all. It takes a dedicated right-winger to stick up for Franco.

[Provost Harrison]

Oooh, CivNation, now there's a blast from the past He was totally of his rocker, wasn't he?

[Ecthy]

Gays are devil offspring...

[Dr Strangelove]

Conservative Germans, now ther's a scary thought.

[Agathon]

If he was alive in a welfare state, it meant strangers were forced to subsidise his drinking. Does that count as a freedom for those paying his bar tabs?

What counts as freedom depends entirely on what you value. You say that people should be free to pay tax if they want; I say that old people should be free to live their lives in dignity and security.

You can't just sat "that's not freedom" since you will be imposing your own partisan definition on the word.

[Dr Strangelove]

Berz has lived a sheltered life. He's never been exposed to old people, he's not aware of how people get weaker as they age, or get arthritis or other ilnesses.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Berzerker


I'm sure you have ample evidence of this? I can point to dozens of countries where governments assumed more control over the economy and the result was more control over people's personal decisions so I see a flaw with the left. Governments exerting "ownership" over our property will eventually exert ownership over us.

Virtually the entire western world became more liberal in the 20th century and the result was the loss of economic freedom followed by the loss of our personal freedom. Once the taxpayers are paying for the behavior of others thru various government schemes to re-distribute wealth, they'll want to place controls on that behavior.

And since the "right" is made up by so many conservative religious folk who seem to think their salvation requires "saving" others from "sin",
i.e., laws violating our personal freedom, liberals end up giving away our personal freedom to get their welfare state. Not one liberal country I know of would allow me to use cocaine. Thats a personal freedom and a freedom we had 120 years ago when we had more economic freedom. Now we need permission to ingest what we want...

BS, economic freedom has nothing to do with personal freedom. Indeed, I think they are a trade off to some extent. As I have said many other times, a libertarian utopia is impossible because it would degenerate into defacto feudalism. So much for personal freedom. Libertarianism is an invention of greedy twerps as a way to rationalize and legitimize thier scummy behavior.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Berzerker
define "right", if economic freedom - market liberalism - is right wing then why aren't the people who believe in personal or social freedom right wing as well?

The problem is liberals are more accepting of personal freedom but not economic freedom and social conservatives - the "religious right" - believe the opposite. To call one group "left" and the other "right" seems to miss the point. If liberals are making my economic decisions and conservatives are making my personal decisions, they're just 2 sides of the same coin and those who believe in freedom lose regardless of which side rears it's ugly head. Calling one left and the other right is about as useful as making a distinction between socialists and fascists.

Berz, congrats. Someone who has begun to think. Left and right has at least three and maybe more axes: Economic, social and political. Economically, the LESS government control, the more RIGHT one is. Socially, the MORE control over social decisions, the more RIGHT one is. Politically, I would say, the more democratic the more RIGHT one is, but here we can have an healthy debate, as I see leftists always on the side of totalitarianism regardless of their demurrers to the contrary.

I personally am economically and politically on the right. Socially, I tend to be on the left, but only to a small degree.

[Ned]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Ned is so rightwing he has a whole universe to himself, where history takes bizarre turns, and Great Britain started WWI in order to start losing its empire and cede its financial position in South America to the U.S. and somehow also bizarrely began WWII, despite Germany's invasion of Poland having a prior claim.

I think you meant WWII.

When I was a kid, I was taught that there was no real blame attached to any power regarding WWI. It just snowballed, historians said, due to interlocking alliances.

But as to WWII and as to a lot of the other conflicts in the world since WWI*, Britian is deeply involved in creating the causes for war and to actually starting them. Now I am not the only one who has ever said this, as it appears to be a consensus view among all of Britains victims. But, British propaganda is very good, I agree. It almost has most of the world convinced that Britain is the most disinterested, kindly and munificent nation that ever existed.

*Germany vs. Poland, China vs. Japan, Arab vs. Jew in Palestine, Pakistan vs. India. There are more of course. But these stand out.

[Shi Huangdi]

I'm really not very conservative at all. If I am one of the ten most right-wing posters, it would only be because Apolyton is so far to the left.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Gays are devil offspring...

Come join the dark side.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I'm really not very conservative at all.

One of the more funny posts in this thread.

[Dis]

no one has mentioned me. And I voted for GWB in 2000.