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  • #46
    Originally posted by JohnT


    And I choose "Yes!"
    Good for you I wouldnt wish vegetarianism on anyone.



    Originally posted by Provost Harrison


    Remember that the next time you're in London chomping on a burger
    Fast food is my bane Im not going to wait 5 minutes for them to cook a veggie burger I dont like, and a salad kebab is just well...... a salad
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    • #47
      Originally posted by aneeshm


      He meant ( at least I would have ) uneducated in the finer vegetarian culinary arts . Poor , I don't know . Meat is much more expensive than vegetables are in India .

      As for myself , I am vegetarian , not for moral reasons ( there really aren't any , when it comes to this issue ) , but because I'm fond of my health .

      Of course , the fact the India has a vegetarian tradition which has evolved over thousands of years helps in no small measure .
      while i agree most folks do not research the nutritional value of a veg lifestyle unless you plan on follwing that regime. As for poor i dont get either however i wasnt try to be offensive but merely asking what the two have to do with being a meat eater. I for one did grow up in a poor mexican family, when we didnt have any meat we usually ate beans and rice with some brand of a tortilla wheter it be corn or flour. Chicken was always cheaper to buy so we also ate our fair share of chicken. I think in most poor families food supplies are limited so u must eat what is availabe and probably not adhere to just veggies or meats.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
        I think in most poor families food supplies are limited so u must eat what is availabe and probably not adhere to just veggies or meats.
        Which was his point...
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        • #49
          Originally posted by General Ludd


          Which was his point...
          In which case i got after rereading his post and looking back on my childhood. I got the poor idea and can even give validation to his uneducated argument. Since in some famlies just as being poor some are uneducated and have no idea of nutritional value of food the eat since they the eat what was available. I was focused on the fat that i am neither poor nor uneucated and chose to eat meat since im not in postion that i have to eat whats available
          When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
            im not sure where poor and uneducated come into eating meat cause i am nether poor or uneducated and eat meat. I happen to like a good steak or burger every now and then
            Several points:

            1. Many animals are raised inhumanely (e.g. chicken farms) in many countries (probably different in Mexico).

            2. Some animals are fed with grain (e.g. cattle in the States) that can be otherwise used to sustain humans.
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            • #51
              most animals are fed by corn in the US

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              • #52
                meat rules

                I could never give it up. It's the only thing that fills me up.

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                • #53
                  I had a very low meat diet for well over a decade. I basically used it to compliment vegitable and grain meals.

                  Then I went on Atkins. I'm never going back to not eating meat. Oh, what I missed. I don't even have the excuse that it's too expensive. I buy in bulk during insame sales. I just bought two pork roasts (12.3lbs), some hamburger (5.2 lbs), and chicken drumsticks (4.2lbs), and they were all ¢99/lb. Almost 22 lbs of meat (and fat and bone)! I wish I had one of those big freezers. Meat is cheaper than veggies. That's just wrong.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #54
                    I'm definetly a meat eater. Like JohnT, I find fried chicken heavenly, but also a good burger, buffalo wings, a juicy steak, and good salmon or tuna (as well as other fish) always sounds good to me. That's just a small sample, really . I love lamb, but hardly get to eat it .
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                    • #55
                      Some animals are fed with grain (e.g. cattle in the States) that can be otherwise used to sustain humans.


                      We produce enough food to feed everyone. The problem is distributional, not productional.
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                      • #56
                        I only eat kosher animals, so that means no pig (also no horse, rabbit, etc but thats hardly a restricition). In the interests of moving another step toward vegetarianism I decided to avoid certain animals that are kosher, but that i wouldnt usually eat (like goat). So the only red meat I eat is beef, and occasionally lamb. I dont eat veal, out of concern for techniques used in raising it. I do eat poultry.

                        I try to keep the amount of red meat I eat down, both for health and for enviro reasons.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          Some animals are fed with grain (e.g. cattle in the States) that can be otherwise used to sustain humans.


                          We produce enough food to feed everyone. The problem is distributional, not productional.
                          That´s what I always say And it´s true. There´s a tremendous waste of food in the rich countries. Even if we changed the whole world to vegetarianism the equalities would still be there. For that to change there´s got to be a serious change in lifestyle and economics.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg


                            That´s what I always say And it´s true. There´s a tremendous waste of food in the rich countries. Even if we changed the whole world to vegetarianism the equalities would still be there. For that to change there´s got to be a serious change in lifestyle and economics.
                            That's the whole point. We overproduce. There's no need for this huge meat production. Most agricultural production is meant to feed these animals. This year the equivalent of an area as large as Belgium was cut down in in the rain forest region to cultivate more soy and probably other products to sustain animals. Okay cutting down the trees is not solely for that, but it does play a large part in it.

                            We should produce meat in the old fashioned way. It'll be much more expensive, but at least we'll eat less meat that way. That's good for everyone's health anyway. Raising livestock the old fashioned way works too you know...
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                            • #59
                              And Btw: If we didn't export our overproduction to countries like Ghana, etc... the poor countries in short, they would be better off too. In fact, in most 3rd world countries it would be possible to produce enough for them to live off. It's our ubercheap crap that crushes the local markets so they can't sell anything.

                              We subsidize our products so we can produce our **** at a lower cost than that it would actually cost to produce without the money donated by the EU etc...!!

                              This world is simply evil..
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                              • #60
                                Everytime there is a poll of this nature, there are more vegetarians.
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