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  • The overwhelming majority refer to them by their theatrical release names. I grew up with everyone knowing damn well the difference between "Star Wars," "Empire," and "Jedi."


    Incorrect... the majority refer to the movies as Episode 4 or "The first movie". Why else would Lucas, changing the copyright with the Special Editions call it 'Star Wars' then, but then a few years later call it "A New Hope" with a IV emblazoned on it?

    Now if John was right and Lucas changed the copyright with the Special Editions for a change in nomenclature... why did he wait almost 10 years to do it?

    Man I love using two of my opponents to pwn each other .
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    • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
      Compliments of the US Copyright office!


      I think you're a little deluded as to who pwned who in this case...

      Anyway, here's the revised correctness scale:

      Imran >> Boris >>>>>>> John T > Jaguar and Oerdin
      Sorry, but as the official documentation backs me up, coupled with the fact that Lucas is a notorious revisioner of his films, the worst one can say in re: to my arguments is that we're screaming past each other, not that I'm wrong.

      Again: the title of the film was Star Wars. As registered with the copyright office.

      Again: everybody referred to the film as Star Wars until the re-releases. There was no "episode X" crap in the vernacular until then. As somebody who lived through the entire SW "era" (as opposed to my opponents) I can only attest to this fact. But it is a fact.

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      • Poll: Dumbest Star Wars argument:

        "Star Wars is not Sci-Fi" - by GePap, et al

        "Star Wars was actually once called 'Star Wars', not 'Episode Four - A New Hope" - by JohnT et al

        Make your choice!

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        • everybody referred to the film as Star Wars until the re-releases. There was no "episode X" crap in the vernacular until then.


          Then why in the video releases of the "Special Edition" as Boris has shown us was the first movie called "Star Wars" and NOT a "A New Hope", which would arise with the DVD release years later.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • Originally posted by Tuberski
            Star Wars is the movie released in 1977.

            ACK!
            Tube's date of birth is 1969. Meaning that, like Boris and I, he was actually there.

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            • Imran, the man changed the damned name of the film from "Star Wars" to "Star Wars Episode Four: A New Hope" in 1997.

              You can't get past that point. You're looking increasingly silly by trying. Stop it - you're embarrassing yourself.

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              • Originally posted by JohnT
                Tube's date of birth is 1969. Meaning that, like Boris and I, he was actually there.
                And us of the between trilogy generation (me, Oerdin, Drake [I think]) called it Episode 4 (or "The First Movie") BEFORE the Special Edition Releases.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • Originally posted by JohnT


                  Tube's date of birth is 1969. Meaning that, like Boris and I, he was actually there.
                  1968 actually........

                  ACK!
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • I'm glad to see that Boris has enough taste and sensitivity to get the widescreen versions.

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                    • Originally posted by JohnT
                      Imran, the man changed the damned name of the film from "Star Wars" to "Star Wars Episode Four: A New Hope" in 1997.

                      You can't get past that point. You're looking increasingly silly by trying. Stop it - you're embarrassing yourself.
                      And the Special Edition VHS of Star Wars Trilogy had the first movie listed as STAR WARS! Boris has shown picture proof!

                      If he was trying to change it during the special editions to make it so everyone would refer to it by episode number, WHY DIDN'T HE DO IT WITH THE SPECIAL EDITION RELEASES? Why did he do it years later?

                      The first time Lucas sold the first movie with the name "Episode 4: A New Hope" was in the DVD Trilogy releases last year (was no one referring to the movies by episode number until last year?).

                      YOU can't get past that point, and you seem to ignore it because it deep sixes your argument.

                      Just admit you were pwned... again.
                      Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; May 20, 2005, 03:00.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • I reckon we're up to at least three pages or so of spoiler-free coverage of the latest Star Wars release.

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                        • MY guess is that the Special Edition box set was released before he had the Copyright changed.

                          In the same year.

                          ACK!
                          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                          • Nope, Tuberski...

                            According to JohnT's cite:

                            Published: 16Jan97
                            Registered: 17Jan97


                            When the video was released on:

                            August 26, 1997


                            (Don't let the title of the page fool you, click on the box)

                            So he changed the name in January according to copyright, but the August release kept the old name? If Lucas was on this mission to change how everyone called the movie, wouldn't he have done it 8 months after the copyright was altered?

                            If Lucas wasn't (my contention), then how did the change in copyright magically make people say Episode X? Especially since the first thing that Lucas sold that said "Episode 4" was the DVD releases last year?
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • I'm missing something on the Episode X thing.

                              Although, I assume you are using X in place of any of the 6 numbers, you do realize that the way the Episodes are number you are saying Episode 10.

                              I hope you realize that.

                              ACK!
                              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                              • Best. Movie. Ever. (well..almost)

                                Over here, we had the Victoria Ward Theatre complex open up 6 of its 15 theatres open.

                                Really liked it. But the Greivous last fight is pretty duff. But the Obi vs. Anakin fight was ridiculously cool. The Palpatine vs. Yoda fight could have been a lot better..but I liked it as well.

                                I really liked how the arrogant Jedi got their 'just desserts'. Kinda shame that I was chuckling under my breath for a few of those scenes...but I'm the guy that was laughing when Palpatine said:

                                "I love Democracy. I love the Republic."....my friend told me to shut up.



                                Overall, I'm going to see it again. Very good movie.
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