Osama bin Laden's view of the Crusades

[Agathon]

Agathon, no doubt the US supported OBL when he was fighting communism in Afghanistan. Why you would deny a similar relationship between communism and radical Islam today when the radical Islamic's are now targeting America is beyond me. Your alliance is obvious.

Even if it were, does that make us any worse than you?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Reading this thread and Ned's posts makes me think that the movie is much closer to actual history than I first though .

[Agathon]

Imran, you are godless heathen. Don't you know that Satan is marshaling his armies to smite God's holy Kingdom of America (the very holy kingdom that gave the world Hustler)?

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's ok. We have the golden PSP to ward them off.

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Ned
As I said, the enormous and blatant hatred of Catholicism in the movie is shocking.

(But entirely welcome to the liberals both here and throughout the world; and of course, to Osama bin Laden, who shares the liberals views on many things it appears.)

I see how you are full of hatred and how you blind yourself with it.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


My god that movie sucked ass.

Actually the Colonel Tarenton, upon who the British bad guy flunkie was obviously based did indeed murder colonial wounded and prisoners, though AFAIK he never herded colonial civilians into a church and burned it down. The British high command didn't like his methods and rebuked him. He was not killed by the Swamp Fox as depicted in the movie, but instead survived the war. He was present at Yorktown. After the surrender, Cornwallis threw the traditional post-battle feast for the officers of both sides. He made a point of not inviting Tarenton.

[chequita guevara]

Didn't one of the colonial irregular units do something really heinous? I forget which side they were on, but I thought there was a massacre in South Carolina.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

if you wanna get down, down on the ground

cocaine.

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cocaine.

[chequita guevara]

[Hueij]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

J. J. Cale

[Hueij]

You've got some sort of problem perceiving more than two ideologies, Ned. Fascists, Europeans, Islamic fundamentalists, communists, democrats... you're incapable of distinguishing between them.

Ned only knows two ideologies. His (everything at the right of Spiro Agnew(sp?)) and the rest of us.

[JohnT]

You spelled it right, Heuijj.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Didn't one of the colonial irregular units do something really heinous? I forget which side they were on, but I thought there was a massacre in South Carolina.

That was Tarenton's cavalry unit. Cavalry was rather rare in the American Revolution. Tarenton commanded a unit of Tory cavalry and had developed effective tactics against American units. Basically he'd engage the colonials with infantry, then as front line troops were tied down he'd select some colonial militia to focus his cavalry attack. At this time in history well trained infantry could easily fend off virtually any cavalry force by forming into squares. Horses won't charge into tightly packed masses of men. Poorly trained militia men would often break ranks and run. Tarenton was famous for having ordered his men to never give quarter to rebels. His brutality angered both the British and the colonials, so he wasn't given the support that he required.

Eventually the colonials turned his tactics against him. A green militia unit was left exposed to bait him during a battle. His cavalry charged and the militia retreated, but as his horsemen approached the colonial lines they found that trained units had manuevered in a manner to turn the vacant spot into a killing ground of crossfire. Tarenton's cavalry was virtually annhilated. Cornwallis blamed Tarenton for having cause him to lose a crucial battle for ther control of North Carolina and refused to give him another field command. The loss of North Catolina forced Cornwallis to retreat to Yorktown, Virginia. At Yorktown Cornwallis placed him in command of a fort guarding the opposite side of the river, because he couldn't stand to have Tarenton anywhere near him.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Now I'm convinced more than ever that Ned suffers from some form of paranoid dementia.

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[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Hueij

You've got some sort of problem perceiving more than two ideologies, Ned. Fascists, Europeans, Islamic fundamentalists, communists, democrats... you're incapable of distinguishing between them.

Ned only knows two ideologies. His (everything at the right of Spiro Agnew(sp?)) and the rest of us.

At least Spiro had a good turn of phrase.

But he was morally/logically bankrupt.