The wonderful world of shell scripts

[Urban Ranger]

The Bourne Shell (sh) is what you write the scripts in, so they can be portable.

[Ted Striker]

Bourne Shell

I always use Bourne for the reason you said.

Alot of peeps use bash or ksh but they have functions in them that often don't work in other shells.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
If i wanted to teach myself some stuff and get back into the swing of things, where would be the best place to start?

If you want to do development work, Linux is a better environment. You get all sorts of Free Software - editors, compilers, debuggers, even profilers. There are also integrated development environments available. Eclipse is general purpose, while netbeans is for Java. There is also gambas.

So find an old computer and install a distro - Fedora Core, Ubuntu, SuSE, etc. The two to stay away from for now are gentoo and debian. Then you can pick a language to study - I recommend Java.

[Zulu Elephant]

What difference does it make if i use windows?

[Agathon]

Aggie - last time you said he had twenty-something bathrooms . WTF ?

But then I was only referring to his five summer residences.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
What difference does it make if i use windows?

Do you know of any good programmer's editor for windows?

[alva]

Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
ok. been thinking about this for some time.

As a kid, i taught myself basic from a book and wrote simple graphic based games by the time was 11 or 12. After that I got interested in other things.

I currently know nothing about C/C++/visual basic...i dont really even know what these are.

If i wanted to teach myself some stuff and get back into the swing of things, where would be the best place to start? I need free downloads for compilers (is that even the right term) and that sort of thing. Im sure i can find turtorials and stuff online

Im using windows xp and basically am not sure what language i should go for and where to get it.

All help appreciated

Get the BETA(Visual Studio) for VB.Net 2005 for free.

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Do you know of any good programmer's editor for windows?

SciTE is okay and available for Windows. And you also have the IDEs like Eclipse and standing above all: Visual Studio

Anyway Zulu Elephant, you could probably look at the Cygwin Linux-Environment for Windows. There you got the Gnu C Compiler Family (gcc) which is free. I think you could also get the MinGW32 Compiler which AFAIK you don't need Cygwin with.

As for IDE you should probably go for Eclipse.

The Bourne Shell (sh) is what you write the scripts in, so they can be portable.

Ah I don't care so much about portability as the scripts work fine in Cygwin and on the Linux-Cluster. Bourne Again!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
SciTE is okay and available for Windows. And you also have the IDEs like Eclipse and standing above all: Visual Studio

The thing is though, if Zulu Elephant want to get back into the swing of the things, he should start with Java. So that's dealing with the SDK with command line and possibly netbeans (a lot of people use JBuilder, but I had a hell of a time trying to add the JDBC driver of mySQL to it).

Developing on the command line in Windows is intolerable because of 8.3.

[alva]

Jbulder..

/me spits on the floor! Bah

Visual Studio

PS, Jbuilder has unofficially been abandoned by Sun.

[Atahualpa]

The thing is though, if Zulu Elephant want to get back into the swing of the things, he should start with Java. So that's dealing with the SDK with command line and possibly netbeans (a lot of people use JBuilder, but I had a hell of a time trying to add the JDBC driver of mySQL to it).

Developing on the command line in Windows is intolerable because of 8.3.

That's what cygwin is for

Besides I'd recommend C# over Java.

[alva]

Besides I'd recommend C# over Java.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger



If you want to do development work, Linux is a better environment. You get all sorts of Free Software - editors, compilers, debuggers, even profilers. There are also integrated development environments available. Eclipse is general purpose, while netbeans is for Java. There is also gambas.

So find an old computer and install a distro - Fedora Core, Ubuntu, SuSE, etc. The two to stay away from for now are gentoo and debian. Then you can pick a language to study - I recommend Java.

All thats a bit over the top, it sounds to me like Zulu just wants a bit of mental exercise and to see whether he's still intested in knocking up a few programs in his spare time.

Just get JBuilder, Borland C or, as Alva may have mentioned ,Visual Studio (or one of the packages in it). Ignore all the crap above, it's total overkill, you'll be put off before you even manage to get "Hello World" up on the screen.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by alva
PS, Jbuilder has unofficially been abandoned by Sun.

Um, no. JBuilder is a Borland product.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by reds4ever
Just get JBuilder, Borland C or, as Alva may have mentioned ,Visual Studio (or one of the packages in it).

Is Visual Studio free?