All Hail the Glorious People's Revolution in Vietnam!

[chequita guevara]

No way, man. My molassas comment was way better than that.

[Lancer]

You guys are all great.

[Ned]

Che, it all depends on how you measure left and right. I measure it by the level of freedom. When one has freedom, one has a "free" market.

Fascism is a form of leftism, just more free that traditional socialism.

[Lancer]

"Fascism is a form of leftism, just more free that traditional socialism."

It's more of a nationalist, socialist, workers party...

[Hueij]

Originally posted by Ned
Che, it all depends on how you measure left and right. I measure it by the level of freedom. When one has freedom, one has a "free" market.

Fascism is a form of leftism, just more free that traditional socialism.

So Batista, Stroessner, Videla, Pinochet, Franco et al were all in fact lefties? I learn something new every day...

[chequita guevara]

Well, Ned, if you use your own individual set of weights and measures, don't be surprised when your projects don't come out right.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Ned

I equate "rightism" with freedom, and leftism with lack of freedom.

No, "right" and "left" refer the economics and welfare axis of the political chart freedom vs. athoritarianism is the other axis.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ned

I equate "rightism" with freedom, and leftism with lack of freedom. So I would contend that fascism is a form of leftism.

Where do you come up with bullsh*t like this?

[Odin]

Originally posted by MrFun



Where do you come up with bullsh*t like this?

Where do you think? His ass.

[Ned]

What you don't seem to understand is that freedom and capitalism are the same thing. As one begins to impose control, one moves to the LEFT.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ned
What you don't seem to understand is that freedom and capitalism are the same thing. As one begins to impose control, one moves to the LEFT.

Never mind the nagging trend that people on the left of the economic axis tend to be lessauthoritarian on social issues.

This can be observed even in our own 'Poly. Just unearth a Political Compass thread, and you'll see the correlation between economic rightwingerness and social authoritarianism.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ned
What you don't seem to understand is that freedom and capitalism are the same thing. As one begins to impose control, one moves to the LEFT.

News flash -- capitalism is a form of economic coercion, exploitation, and control. And this is the same with communism.

Any economic system relies on some form of coercion, exploitation, and control. The only fundamental variations, is how discrete are the means of the people who are at the top of the system.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ned
What you don't seem to understand is that freedom and capitalism are the same thing. As one begins to impose control, one moves to the LEFT.

You don't think capitalists control?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ned


Perhaps not card carrying. But most share many of the goals of communism, particularly they love socialism.

You will note here kid that most of the leftists on this board defend communism against the US.

LIBERALS in this country are not communists. I wish that were true.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Kidicious


You don't think capitalists control?

You must have cross-posted.