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  • #61
    Yeah, but Romans

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    • #62
      yeah, youre right

      Romans
      "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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      • #63
        Clarification about these calls to invade Prifysgol Caerdydd. This is Cardiff University right?
        There's no game in The Sims. It's not a game. It's like watching a tank of goldfishes and feed them occasionally. - Urban Ranger

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sandman


          How does one prove such a thing? What proof would you have accepted?
          It is possible to show where the dismantled parts are.
          He could've let inspector witness the dismantling.
          He could've handled the weapons to the UN.

          The UN resolution 1441 (if I'm correct) says Sadam should prove he got rid of the weapons and cooperate with the inspectors. You either say that this resolution is clueless (which would made the entire UN look horrible) or it apparantly is possible to prove it.

          The chief of the inspectors declared every time that Sadam was not cooperating. People focussed on the "Not found any WMD yet" but he said the other thing as well.

          Besides that: no-one commented on my arguments so far.
          Formerly known as "CyberShy"
          Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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          • #65
            the burden of proof should be on the prosecutor, not the defendant. we dont do it french style, why should saddam.
            "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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            • #66
              they're probably all in Syria though. I mean we KNOW he had them, he has used them before

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Qilue
                Clarification about these calls to invade Prifysgol Caerdydd. This is Cardiff University right?
                It is, but my initial reference to it was simply as MOBIUS' given location.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                  the burden of proof should be on the prosecutor, not the defendant. we dont do it french style, why should saddam.
                  Because he was surrendering after losing a war, and he agreed to do it that way
                  Keep on Civin'
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Winston


                    It is, but my initial reference to it was simply as MOBIUS' given location.
                    I see now. Then we should definately invade to flush out the WMDs commies fascists intellectuals MOBIUS', wait, yes, we should invade to flush out MOBIUS and his evil minions.
                    There's no game in The Sims. It's not a game. It's like watching a tank of goldfishes and feed them occasionally. - Urban Ranger

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                    • #70
                      Because he was surrendering after losing a war, and he agreed to do it that way

                      no, we are talking about resolution 1441.
                      "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia no, we are talking about resolution 1441.
                        1441 called on Saddam to comply with the ceasefire terms. GW1 never ended, there was just a ceasefire. Saddam failed to meet any number of terms of the ceasefire (like proving he had gotten rid of his WMD programs and also like accounting for the Kuwaitis that his boys "disappeared" in 1991). GWB could have simply vioded the ceasefire for non-compliance on Saddam's part and gone to war with perfect legitimacy, if he had not been more motivated to stick one in the eye of the UN and prove his 'pre-emptive retaliation" doctrine so as to scare PDRK and Iran.
                        The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
                        - A. Lincoln

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                        • #72
                          1441 called on Saddam to comply with the ceasefire terms. GW1 never ended, there was just a ceasefire. Saddam failed to meet any number of terms of the ceasefire (like proving he had gotten rid of his WMD programs and also like accounting for the Kuwaitis that his boys "disappeared" in 1991). GWB could have simply vioded the ceasefire for non-compliance on Saddam's part and gone to war with perfect legitimacy, if he had not been more motivated to stick one in the eye of the UN and prove his 'pre-emptive retaliation" doctrine so as to scare PDRK and Iran.
                          ah ha, i see.
                          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by grumbler
                            1441 called on Saddam to comply with the ceasefire terms. GW1 never ended, there was just a ceasefire. Saddam failed to meet any number of terms of the ceasefire (like proving he had gotten rid of his WMD programs and also like accounting for the Kuwaitis that his boys "disappeared" in 1991). GWB could have simply vioded the ceasefire for non-compliance on Saddam's part and gone to war with perfect legitimacy, if he had not been more motivated to stick one in the eye of the UN and prove his 'pre-emptive retaliation" doctrine so as to scare PDRK and Iran.
                            grumbler

                            I agree as I had assumed this was the case. Part of why I am highly amused at all the debates over whether GWB and his sidekick actually lied or not. Especially since what I believed was the ultimate objective has been achieved.
                            There's no game in The Sims. It's not a game. It's like watching a tank of goldfishes and feed them occasionally. - Urban Ranger

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by MOBIUS
                              I think you'll find about half the posters on this forum were bleating about getting Iraq because of WMDs...

                              They've all gone quiet now because they basically know they've been PWNED!

                              People like Lancer...


                              Who's the daddy?
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #75
                                It is because of this crap that I would not vote Blair - he took the country into a war it didn't want on the basis of a pack of lies...
                                Speaking of Erith:

                                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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