No WMD!

[Lancer]

CyberShy

[Max Webster]

I think Cybershy and Mobius both have made some excellent points.

But I still think the the whole weapons thing was exaggerated to help grease the wheels of invasion.

Yes there are madman and terrible situations all over the world. But the difference with Iraq is that its sitting on one huge pool of a very valuable resource. Not to mention rebuilding Iraq is going to cost billions. I hope the people of Iraq get wealthy over this rebuilding process and not just a minority few, along with a bunch of foreigners.

[Kidlicious]

Americans believed Bush that there were WMDs in Iraq. Now he's telling us that SS is going to go bankrupt. I guess we will probably fall for another lie. What idiots!? We will keep getting what we deserve for not using our brains.

[Robert]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Americans believed Bush that there were WMDs in Iraq. Now he's telling us that SS is going to go bankrupt. I guess we will probably fall for another lie. What idiots!? We will keep getting what we deserve for not using our brains.

any change you're going to address our arguments or are you just another 13 in a dozen "blindly against Bush" "jump in a thread and paste your rant" kind of guy who sticks two fingers in his ears and keeps on screaming "I'm right I'm right I'm right I'm right"?

[Robert]

Originally posted by Max Webster
I think Cybershy and Mobius both have made some excellent points.

But I still think the the whole weapons thing was exaggerated to help grease the wheels of invasion.

Yes there are madman and terrible situations all over the world. But the difference with Iraq is that its sitting on one huge pool of a very valuable resource. Not to mention rebuilding Iraq is going to cost billions. I hope the people of Iraq get wealthy over this rebuilding process and not just a minority few, along with a bunch of foreigners.

The oil is one reason that the ME is that important, and the war in the north of Uganda doesn't get to our headlines.
Another reason is of course Israel and Saudi Arabia, the holy land for two world relious. And how war in the ME affects the entire earth.

An instable Iraq is no good for the ME, and thus important for the rest of the world. Though I wish the UN would help solving the problem of the army of Kone in North Uganda as well. Though I can't blame Bush for not solving all problems in the world. If all wealthy nations would do as much as America and England the world would be a better place.

Imagine how many more people would have died if it were not for these two countries. I never got the "You cannot go for that dictator if you don't go for all dictators"
I'd rather say: "Get them one by one, but start with the worst one"

Like no-one would say: "Either inprison all murderers or don't inprison them at all. Don't only get those for who you've got enough evidence"

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Winston
We should invade Prifysgol Caerdydd next, and put an end to all that idiotic blabbering once and for all.

We'd kick your effete Danish arses clean back to that German suburb you call "home".

[Sandman]

He never proved he got rid of his WMD,

How does one prove such a thing? What proof would you have accepted?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Well that group includes the Bush and Clinton administrations, the CIA, MI6, the Mossad, the Russian FSR as well as the German, French, and Jordanian intelligence services, solid majorities of the American population as well as majorities in most European countries and last (and probably least) a firm majority of people on this board. Even those who were less than convinced by the "proof" offered up by the intelligence services were at least suspicious because Hussein refused to cooperate with inspectors despite the huge toll that it had on his country and ultimately his regime.

As for your unpatriotic, unamerican and traitorous ways why don't you quit behaving like that or at least cut down a little? Maybe then people wouldn't characterize you that way.

hard to quit behaving that way when any opposition to bush is unpatriotic, unamerican and traitorous. any questioning of the facts, and wavering of support of the government is unamerican. sounds like nazism, stalinism, or fascism. take your pick.

oh, and out of all your groups, why doesnt it include the UN weapons inspectors, guys who actually were there on the ground? the only unpartisan source out of all of those. but no, you are just a bunch of hacks who swallow everything spoon fed to you. well, it seems like you choked on this one eh.

[Ecthy]

War on Iraq

Statements making clear Denmark is but our backyard

Freedom

Commies

[Ecthy]

Pacifism

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by CyberShy


any change you're going to address our arguments or are you just another 13 in a dozen "blindly against Bush" "jump in a thread and paste your rant" kind of guy who sticks two fingers in his ears and keeps on screaming "I'm right I'm right I'm right I'm right"?

I don't call recognizing a patern of lying and using scare tactics "blind."

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by Ming
3) and most important... I was too lazy

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Which is why Cybershy is on the first flight to liberate Darfur...

The whole point is that if we are to believe our govts , we were solely after the WMDs - because taking out Saddam solely on the grounds of regime change is illegal.

Personally I'm happy he's gone - but we were LIED TO! You would have to be a prize moron not to realise otherwise...

The US doesn't care if he's killed all those people, f***, they even helped him do it over the decades he was their friend - one of the worst acts of betrayal in recent history IMO is the US encouraging the Shias in GWI to rebel and then stand by as Saddam massacred them!

Saddam is certainly no worse than many of the US' past and present allies, he may have killed more people than some - but then the US gave him more toys...

So don't get up on your soapbox and preach this morality BS, because if it was about getting the 'bad men'TM then Darfur (Rwanda II - aren't we supposed to learn from our mistakes!!?) would have been sorted out years ago!

I am not against military intervention when it is justified on human rights grounds, such as Sierra Leone, Afghanistan etc - but these interventions have to be consistent.

On the scale of human need, Darfur far outweighs Iraq - but yet nothing is being done as tens of thousands slowly starve to death or are butchered or raped as they are ethnically cleansed from their land...

You're supposed to be a compassionate christian type, get your priorities right because for the US to claim that they got rid of Saddam because he is a 'bad man'TM is pure hypocrisy!

[Ecthy]

I have it best of all of us:

1. My government didn't lie on me (in this regard)

2. Saddam's gone

3. I got a good grade on my ROman Republic home project

[Lawrence of Arabia]

ROmans