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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ned
    Ah! Putin. He will always sell advanced weapons to enemies of the United States and Israel.
    To be fair the only countries which are left for the Russians to sell to are countries we won't sell to.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ned


      The reason is the same reason Britain declared war on Germany after Germany cross the line in the sand that Britain drew. They have to act to suppress an enemy while they still can.
      Israel's nuclear arsenal, not to mention the superior training and skill of the IDF compared to the Syrians will assure that Israel can act any time it deems that it needs to do so, and there won't be **** the Syrians can do about it.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
        Syria hasn't lobbed arty or missiles into Israel since the the early 70s. They didn't even do it during the Bekaa Valley air war in the early 80s. It's all coming from Palestinians in Gaza or what's their faces in Lebanon.
        The Syrian occupiers in Lebanon?

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        • #19
          Yeah Ned, whatever... selling weapons is a dirty business, everyone who can does it, get over it.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Whoha
            The Syrian occupiers in Lebanon?
            No, Hezbollah. I couldn't remember their name, but Siro remembered for me. Whle Syria does aid Hezbollah, they Hezbollah attacks from areas formerly occupied by Israel, not areas occupied by Syria.

            As for Israeli's air threat being somewhat neutralized, oh well. Maybe they'll have to negotiate for peace with Syria and consider returning the Golan.
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            • #21
              "Lancer, if I were Israel, I would draw a line in the sand now that Russia is selling missles to Syria. No more or else."

              With who? Russia? Syria?

              A couple of armored cavalry regiments, one opposite Syria and one in the Sinai. Then let the Russians sell what they may. Really Ned, there's no stopping the arms trade. If they don't get it from the Russians they'll get it from a real enemy, like France.
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              • #22
                Lets see, there is really nothing Russia needs that Israel can really supply, and Israel won't buy Russian weapons...Why should the Russians then give a damn about the Israeli reaction?
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sirotnikov
                  And Israel sees Syria responsible for not stopping Hezbullah attacks and therefore wants to keep a military threat option against Syria viable.

                  Not to mention that the Israeli doctrine is heavily based on use of Aerial bombardment, and this will somewhat neutralise its effectiveness.
                  So in short, the Russians are doing something bad, because they help preventing the Israelis for bombing however they please?
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                  • #24
                    GePap...

                    Because at this point in history I think Israel could take the Russians single handed...if the US would watch their back in the Sinai and Golan.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lancer
                      GePap...

                      Because at this point in history I think Israel could take the Russians single handed...if the US would watch their back in the Sinai and Golan.
                      How the hell would Israelis even approach Russia? Israel has no real blue water navy, limited airlift capability-it would be utterly unable to do anything to Russia. The same could be said of Russia to Israel, thought Russia does have a superior Navy and some airlift, though not much, really.

                      The real basic difference though are Israel's 200 air-delivered fission bombs vs. Russia's 6000 Fusion devices on intercontinental ballistic missiles.
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                      • #26
                        It's all about the Benjamins, whether you're an authoritarian dictatorship like Russia or a liberal democracy like France...
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                        • #27
                          Drake, you REALLY need to start a thread about that.

                          GePap, they just need to make an alliance with someone like the Azerbijohnies. Then they just sail over in regular freighters and hit Russia in their soft moslem underbelly.
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                          • #28
                            Drake, you REALLY need to start a thread about that.


                            Eh. My gives a **** is broken when it comes to France...
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                            • #29
                              Oh, I forgot how well the Israelis would be accepted in the Islamic Caucausian provinces like Chechnya...

                              Its a silly notiont that these two nations would have any real war.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                                It's all about the Benjamins, whether you're an authoritarian dictatorship like Russia or a liberal democracy like France...


                                How low can this government get?

                                Edit: never mind, we made about 5 billions, especially by selling Airbuses
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