Total and Utter Devastation or how i learned how to stop worrying and get revenge.

[JohnT]

Can't have a thread w/o a movie quote, can we?

Originally posted by MRT144


im going to try to stop.

No! Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by MRT144


wait wait wait, so it wouldnt be so bad if there was actual naked pictures? i think her mom would have driven out here and killed her.

No, it would still be bad, but it would be a real evil, fiendish revenge, not a childish, spoiled little kid revenge.



ACK!

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Agathon

Aggie, please... A dog can�t consent that�s the difference.

That argument doesn't work. A dog doesn't consent to other dogs, but we don't go around stopping dogs from screwing.

Try again.

Never neutered or spayed a pet? Never even heard of it?

We had a Scottish Terrier (male) and then a few years later got a Basset Hound (female).

Trust me, the thought of their potential puppies was all the motivation needed to interfere with their "private" sex lives!

[MRT144]

Re: Can't have a thread w/o a movie quote, can we?

Originally posted by JohnT


No! Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

i knew someone was gonna play yoda. and who better than you to do it.

I wont be childish anymore.

[JohnT]

Re: Re: Can't have a thread w/o a movie quote, can we?

Originally posted by MRT144


i knew someone was gonna play yoda. and who better than you to do it.

I wont be childish anymore.

It should've been Imran - he's the SW fanboy around here.

[Agathon]

Yes, of course it is. Do you think it�s ok to have sex with dogs, or chicken, or kids or comatose people for that matter?

I think all of these are wrong, but I don't think you can make the case in terms of consent. Having sex with a person without their consent is wrong, but it doesn't follow from that, that having sex with a being who cannot consent must be wrong.

We�re not talking dog on dog sex here. We�re talking human on dog sex. Which is wrong because a animal can�t consent, since this is limited to adult humans.

You've given no reason to exclude dog on dog sex. If a dog tried to have sex with a human being, this would be a bad thing if the human being told it to go away. Similarly we could agree that dog on dog rape was a bad thing for the raped dog. But that has nothing to do with normal cases of dog sex which dogs seem to enjoy.

Why does the dogs consent matter just because it is a person rather than another dog? You need to show why this is different, rather than just repeating yourself.

Sex with a non-consenting partner is wrong because both should be in on it. And since animals can�t consent it�s wrong to have sex with animals. Doesn�t sound like a spurious reason to me...

You still haven't explained why it's not wrong for animals to have sex with each other then, given that they can't consent.

[MRT144]

dude, could we please not turn this into a thread about ****ing sheep

[Agathon]

Trust me, the thought of their potential puppies was all the motivation needed to interfere with their "private" sex lives!

That's kind of besides the point since it introduces additional considerations. If consent is really what matters, we should try to stop all animal on animal sex.

[Agathon]

dude, could we please not turn this into a thread about ****ing sheep

Don't be disgusting, this is about sex with dogs.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Agathon

Trust me, the thought of their potential puppies was all the motivation needed to interfere with their "private" sex lives!

That's kind of besides the point since it introduces additional considerations. If consent is really what matters, we should try to stop all animal on animal sex.

You were the one who stated, blankly:

A dog doesn't consent to other dogs, but we don't go around stopping dogs from screwing.

Not I.

[Tuberski]

ACK!

[Agathon]

You were the one who stated, blankly.

Fine.

Of course if you'd followed the argument you would have seen that I meant we don't do it because they don't consent. That is what the argument was about.

Your point is irrelevant.

[Ming]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised where some threads head... enough of this.

I Do NOT want to see another thread on this again.