Total and Utter Devastation or how i learned how to stop worrying and get revenge.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Tuberski


It's funny to me that you defend MRT, but would go ballistis if someone told your family of your sex life.

But of course you'll say "That's different, [insert argument here]"

When the only way it's actually different is you being outed to your family happens to you.

ACK!

Ashers parents don´t know? Anyone have their phone number?

[Agathon]

Now you�re just being silly. We�re talking consentual sex between adult humans here. Not the kind of sordid canine sex you�re filming as a "hobby"

That's no argument either I am afraid. You said that having sex with a dog is wrong because it's not consensual. But no dog on dog sex ever is. Does that mean it is immoral, or does it mean that consent isn't a factor in having sex with dogs, whereas it is with humans.

People who follow GePap's line on morality often have trouble telling us what's wrong with bestiality, so they either pretend to accept it, or just invent some spurious reason for its wrongness.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Asher

You're comparing being gay to choosing to do porn and choosing to cheat on an SO?

Nope. Sex life to sex life.

ACK!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tuberski
Nope. Sex life to sex life.

ACK!

Fair enough, but it's not a valid comparison then.

At the time I had no sex life.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg
Ashers parents don´t know? Anyone have their phone number?

They now know.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Asher

They now know.

Was it as bad as you feared?

ACK!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tuberski
Was it as bad as you feared?

ACK!

They cooled down after a while.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by General Ludd


No, that is not the issue. They where never in a monogamous relationship. The two of them got the STD during a threesome.

aint that the problem - in the absence of anything explicit, Ms Transylvania (or whatever) thought that once theyd brought in a "third" it was no big deal to have more "fun". Mr T, however didnt see it that way - despite what hed invited Ms Trans to do, he saw a boundary - now what cultural mores do for us is establish unstated rules, that serve when we cant or wont make our agreements explicit - but we dont HAVE cultural mores for this sort of thing - on the one hand the multiple activity violates our cultural norms, yet other cultural norms insist that anything engaged in by consenting adults is "ok". So the culture said they could do this, but didnt establish clear parameters. The lesson again, is that those who go into such borderline situations do so at their own emotional risk, especially when they are young. Mr T's reaction is NOT appropriate given this, yet its hard to fault him - our culture, with its winking support for doing what feels good, even when what feels good in the short run is so emotionally dangerous, is whats truely at fault.

[Agathon]

So why are you sympathizing with MRT?

Who said I was? I just thought she got what she deserved. I have very little idea of what he is like, but he didn't try to manipulate her from what I can see.

There's no logical principle that requires you to take sides in this matter. You could say that both would get what they deserved and still be consistent.

In any case, I can't see the point of people arguing that MRT outed her. As I said before, the fact that the porn movie would be publicly available for sale makes that argument ridiculous.

What if someone else had seen it and told her mother? I don't see how that is wrong at all. If you post video of your naked arse on the internet, you lose all expectation of privacy.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Asher

They cooled down after a while.

Good.

ACK!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Agathon

In any case, I can't see the point of people arguing that MRT outed her. As I said before, the fact that the porn movie would be publicly available for sale makes that argument ridiculous.

What if someone else had seen it and told her mother? I don't see how that is wrong at all. If you post video of your naked arse on the internet, you lose all expectation of privacy.

MRT has already stated that he didn't sign the release, so no one will see the movie.

That's the sad part. If he had signed the release then pointed the mother to the sight, now THAT is revenge.

What he did was simply childish.

ACK!

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Agathon

So why are you sympathizing with MRT?

Who said I was? I just thought she got what she deserved. I have very little idea of what he is like, but he didn't try to manipulate her from what I can see.

Encouraging someone to do something and then ratting them out once they've done it seems like manipulation to me.

What if someone else had seen it and told her mother?

Then it wouldn't of been him that "outed" her. But it wasn't someone else. It was him.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Tuberski


MRT has already stated that he didn't sign the release, so no one will see the movie.

That's the sad part. If he had signed the release then pointed the mother to the sight, now THAT is revenge.

What he did was simply childish.

ACK!

wait wait wait, so it wouldnt be so bad if there was actual naked pictures? i think her mom would have driven out here and killed her.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Agathon

Now you�re just being silly. We�re talking consentual sex between adult humans here. Not the kind of sordid canine sex you�re filming as a "hobby"

That's no argument either I am afraid. You said that having sex with a dog is wrong because it's not consensual.

Yes, of course it is. Do you think it´s ok to have sex with dogs, or chicken, or kids or comatose people for that matter?

But no dog on dog sex ever is. Does that mean it is immoral, or does it mean that consent isn't a factor in having sex with dogs, whereas it is with humans.

We´re not talking dog on dog sex here. We´re talking human on dog sex. Which is wrong because a animal can´t consent, since this is limited to adult humans.

People who follow GePap's line on morality often have trouble telling us what's wrong with bestiality, so they either pretend to accept it, or just invent some spurious reason for its wrongness.

Sex with a non-consenting partner is wrong because both should be in on it. And since animals can´t consent it´s wrong to have sex with animals. Doesn´t sound like a spurious reason to me...

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Asher

They now know.

Damn!