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  • #31
    Why should they arrest them? They're not violating Mexican law.
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    • #32
      Used to be countries tried to keep people in, not out.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brent
        Used to be countries tried to keep people in, not out.
        And the advantage of Mexico is that it doesn't restrict freedom like that.
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        • #34
          JP2 also reprimanded Blair and Bush for the war in Iraq "a defeat for humanity", it didn't stop them turning up as representatives.
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          • #35
            You ***** about Mugabe yet say nothing about Cardinal Law's upfront role in the funeral?
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            • #36
              You have to wonder about people who get all worked up about Mugabe when they ignore visits by massively murderous people like the princes of Saudi Arabia, etc. Oh no! A nasty guy is throwing white people off their farms! We must be outraged! Oh, that dictator over there is murdering thousands of brown people. Who cares? It's not like they're white.
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              • #37
                What massively murderous activities have the Saudi princes been carrying out lately, if I may ask?
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                • #38
                  How convenient to be able to close ones eyes to the nastiness of despots, provided they're Socialists of course.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Last Conformist
                    What massively murderous activities have the Saudi princes been carrying out lately, if I may ask?
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                    • #40
                      Mugabe could be the next John Paul II, ten-fold.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Last Conformist

                        We should invade, occupy and annex them!
                        But they are protected by the swiss guard...attempt invasion and they'll unleash their swiss army knives against you...be warned, they could open your bottle of wine or file your nails if you're not careful
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          Wow... such a fan of national soveriegnty you are . I guess that means EU countries should nab people like Kissinger in the US to have trials for them

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                            Boris, if we stopped eating with sinners, then we would have to leave this world.
                            God, you're so pretentious.

                            Look, the problem is that Mugabe is actively engaged to this day in inhumane acts and criminal behavior. I see no reason not to bar someone from such a ceremony if they've not repented of their misdeeds. Mugabe isn't going to be influenced by the Vatican. But the Vatican receiving him as such gives him credibility, which sucks. They're helping him continue to hurt people.

                            Mugabe is a Catholic, however awful his practice is.
                            So someone who votes for a pro-choice candidate can be denied communion, but a murdering tyrant who oppresses his people gets a free pass? Nice priorities.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              But would the US be ok with, say, Mexican police coming into New Mexico and seizing people? I doubt it.
                              How is that analogous? Note that I said they should wait until he leaves.

                              KH: Italy may have the treaty with the Vatican (but they may not), but does the EU? It's the EU that has issued the travel ban anyway. They should prohibit Mugabe from entering Italian territory. Then he'd be stuck at the Vatican.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                You ***** about Mugabe yet say nothing about Cardinal Law's upfront role in the funeral?
                                First, I hadn't heard anything about Law (he ain't a Cardinal anymore, you know) as of yet.

                                Now, after reading up on it, he didn't have an "upfront" role at the funeral. He's leading a mass at the church where he is currently archpriest as part of the official mourning. One would suspect an active member of the clergy would be participating in ceremonies at their own parish.
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