The equal strengths of Star Wars and Star Trek

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Lonestar
As I have neither the time, nor the bandwith to stumble through this mockery of Science Fiction, I shall just say this:

ST: The good guys are a bunch of communist retards who couldn't fight there way out of a wet paper bag.

SW: Free-market, galactic wide civilizations with FTL much faster than warp, and a halfway competant military on both sides.

SW wins.

SW is in the past and their civilizations are all extinct.


Star Trek is the futre.


Star trek wins.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Lonestar
As I have neither the time, nor the bandwith to stumble through this mockery of Science Fiction, I shall just say this:

ST: The good guys are a bunch of communist retards who couldn't fight there way out of a wet paper bag.

SW: Free-market, galactic wide civilizations with FTL much faster than warp, and a halfway competant military on both sides.

SW wins.

Kirk an fight his way out of anything. Have you seen the 2 handed punch?

The millenium Falcon can only go light speed. That is Warp 1. I'd say ST wins this one.

Halfway competant military? The stormtroopers couldn't hit the side of a barn. Teddy bears eliminated the supposedly most fearsome military in the galaxy.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

How many crushers launched and wasted in this thread alone?

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by General Ludd



In D&D, a wizard's spell is made by direct manipulation of the magic weave (which, as I understand it, is sort of the 'glue' that holds the multiverse together, and runs through every plane of existance). The weave is also largley dependant on Mystra, who directs it into a predictable and controlable element, where her guidance over the weave is absent, magic is chaotic and wild.


Priest's spells, on the other hand, are essentially acts of god - the priest asks the god for something, and the god does the magic. Gods are basically super-wizards.

Cool!

Thanks.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Dissident


Kirk an fight his way out of anything. Have you seen the 2 handed punch?

The millenium Falcon can only go light speed. That is Warp 1. I'd say ST wins this one.

Halfway competant military? The stormtroopers couldn't hit the side of a barn. Teddy bears eliminated the supposedly most fearsome military in the galaxy.

I've been saying this for eons, but it always triggers hissy fits from the "Jar-Jar for President" fan club.

[GePap]

Yeah, the militaries in SW seen rather pathtically incompetent all around. Hard to be fearful of any empire that makes their doom weapons with obvious major weakenesses that a single guy in a tiny little plane can just blow them up.

[Drake Tungsten]

How many crushers launched and wasted in this thread alone?

The Crushers are useless against a geek-field of this magnitude. We are all doomed...

[GePap]

So says the Dune fiend.....

[Drake Tungsten]

Yeah, I've read Dune twice. I sure am a super-geek...

[GePap]

Do we need to bring out the SW threads were you were arguing about how the Dune universe beat the others? You you really think you can hide from your Geek past? We have evidence!

[Drake Tungsten]

Do we need to bring out the SW threads were you were arguing about how the Dune universe beat the others?

That was back before we had intense discussions about the nature of science fiction and magic to derail these stupid threads. I had to do my part, even if I am woefully unequipped for the job...

[Admiral]

Besides, unlike SW/ST, Dune (at least the books towards the beginning) are awesome.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by General Ludd
It can be measured, predicted, and studied, but is still mysterious and otherwordly, because it is largely dependant on other planes of existance. (and what is more otherwordly than that?)

D&D is hack that nobody takes as genre defining work. Genre here refers to fantasy, even though it still doesn't fare all that well for a fantasy RPG.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Do we need to bring out the SW threads were you were arguing about how the Dune universe beat the others?

That was back before we had intense discussions about the nature of science fiction and magic to derail these stupid threads. I had to do my part, even if I am woefully unequipped for the job...

I believe you Drake.


Millions don't.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
It was far worse, IMO, to steal the candles from the bishop than to hide the penny, in effect stealing it.

Then you have utterly no comprehension of the message Hugo was conveying. The hiding of the penny was indeed the worse of the two sins. Robbing Petite Gervais of his coin was precisely the breaking point for Valjean. When he realized what he had done to the little boy, he breaks into tears and is inconsolable with grief over what he has done. He has no such overt remorse for stealing the Bishop's silver.

The Bishop had more silver, Petite Gervais had nothing else. How could you possibly think robbing the boy is the lesser of the sins?