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  • Originally posted by kronic
    In fact, Germany is the 5th poorest among the EU15. Only Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal are poorer. Ireland on the other hand is the second richest (only beaten by Luxembourg). Obviously not a matter of wealth. But then, I oppose this biometric crap.
    If you look at he list, I think wealth is only part of the equation; the countries who will meet the deadline are countries whose governments have a history of efficiency, for want of a better word -- of getting things done, and done well.
    "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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    • its really just fortress America, a new kind of isolationism
      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
        its really just fortress America, a new kind of isolationism
        The Swiss do what they want.

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        • The Swiss can!

          Swiss Cheese
          Swiss Chocolate
          Swiss Pocket knifes
          Swiss Watches
          Swiss bank accounts



          What more do I have to say!

          Well, they are in charge of protecting the pope... where were they!
          Monkey!!!

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          • Originally posted by TCO


            The Swiss do what they want.
            But the Swiss don't take in $56 billion/year in foreign tourist dollars.

            But actually, I agree with you: we can do what we want. The problem is we say we're going to do this (demand visas from non-compliant EU countries), but we won't. That's just lame.
            "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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            • Yeah...well I agree with you that we should do what we say.

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              • We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • Originally posted by TCO


                  The Swiss do what they want.
                  You want to be like the Swiss?
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


                    You want to be like the Swiss?
                    I want to do what we want in our own country for our own border security. Does that chap your ass?

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                    • only if they give me an exam
                      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                      • Well TCO, I don't want to question America's rights as what to do with their borders (except when it would fail with human rights), BUT the whole world has shifted to be way more global than before and America is profiting a LOT from that, so you can't neglect one thing and use the other.
                        The days where you can say: **** the rest we can do what we want are numbered; the more everyone gets involved in everyone elses business just like America gets involved in pretty lot businesses pretty everywhere on the globe, wouldn't you agree?

                        In fact it would be nice to see more kind of cooperation, but the US stance is always perceived as: do as we say!

                        Originally posted by Timexwatch


                        No.

                        Students do, however. God bless Schengen and the E.U. Passport Bureaucracy, it's more efficient that the U.S. passport people.
                        So true, I've been trying to help a Russian (Uzbek) enter the EU. He told me it would be easier if I sign a paper saying that I will take responsibility for him and pay for all the costs that he could possibly have here (provide lodging, food, pay for medical treatment should he become ill, accidents,...). Yeah sure
                        Well now he needs a hotel room and whatnotelse.


                        In any case everyone please watch your language.

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                        • what happened to the spirit of Ellis Island
                          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                          • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                            what happened to the spirit of Ellis Island
                            You can still book the cruises. Personally, Spirit City New York is far better than Spirt of New Jersey for obvious reasons.

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                            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • Rufus

                              You have been a great source of info on this thread. It seems to me that the Administration would definetly have benefited from a more cooperationalist attitude towards the deal and not, here is what we require, now do it type of attitude. That doesn't particularly work as good as the alternative (cooperation).
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • Lazy Euros.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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