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  • Originally posted by Kidicious
    You have a reading comprehension problem. I explicitly stated that even the accused (even the guilty) have a right to a scumbag lawyer like Cochran.
    No, the problem is with you. If you consider lawyers to be scumbags for simply providing the best of assistance to their clients, then you aren't saying defendants really have the right, because if the lawyer gets the guy off, they are scumbags, meaning that the client wasn't really innocent and nothing would convince you otherwise.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • A stingy old lawyer who had been diagnosed with a terminal illness was determined to prove wrong the saying, "You can't take it with you."

      After much thought and consideration, the old ambulance-chaser finally figured out how to take at least some of his money with him when he died. He instructed his wife to go to the bank and withdraw enough money to fill two pillow cases. He then directed her to take the bags of money to the attic and leave them directly above his bed. His plan: When he passed away, he would reach out and grab the bags on his way to heaven.

      Several weeks after the funeral, the deceased lawyer?s wife, up in the attic cleaning, came upon the two forgotten pillow cases stuffed with cash.

      "Oh, that damn old fool," she exclaimed. "I knew he should have had me put the money in the basement."

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      • I think Cochran will go down in history as being a good lawyer who was willing to skate as close to the border of ethics as he could for his client.
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        • Johnny cochran was a good lawyer. But as I sit here and ponder this nobody has commented on the type of man outside the lawyer he was. Oh thats right nobody knew him as a human, Just to sob that got oj off.
          When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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          Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


            No, the problem is with you. If you consider lawyers to be scumbags for simply providing the best of assistance to their clients, then you aren't saying defendants really have the right, because if the lawyer gets the guy off, they are scumbags, meaning that the client wasn't really innocent and nothing would convince you otherwise.
            What are you talking about? Stop twisting my words and read exactly what I type. Defendents have a right to defense. Defending criminals is not moral.
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            • Defending criminals is not moral hmmm thats an interesting statement. What if the person is actually innocent he is still considered a criminal to proven innocent
              When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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              Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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              • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                Defending criminals is not moral hmmm thats an interesting statement. What if the person is actually innocent he is still considered a criminal to proven innocent
                Most people are guilty. It doesn't matter - both deserve someone to defend them. I think it's immoral to just defend people because they are charged. I would have to believe that the person is innocent before I defended them, but then I wouldn't get many clients now would I?
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                • Originally posted by Kidicious
                  Most people are guilty. It doesn't matter - both deserve someone to defend them. I think it's immoral to just defend people because they are charged. I would have to believe that the person is innocent before I defended them, but then I wouldn't get many clients now would I?
                  You do realize that there is more to defending someone than trial work, don't you? I can't remember the percentage on how many defendents actually go to trial, so I'll have to speak anecdotally. Of the roughly 200 clients I've had in the past 7 monhts, only 13 have pursued trial. The rest were probably split 60-40 pleas/dismissals. Dismissals were due to either police/witness laziness failing to appear, or knowing that they were wrongful arrests (I had a 2 great trials ready last week, both cops failed to show) most of the time defense work is just negotiating out a plea favorable to both sides. I hardly see how that can be considered immoral.

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                  • It's decidedly not the job of a defense attorney to determine the guilt or innoncence of his client. That responsibility lies solely with the court.
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                    • Uh kid if they werent charged they wouldnt need defending.
                      When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
                      "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
                      Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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                      • Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                        It's decidedly not the job of a defense attorney to determine the guilt or innoncence of his client. That responsibility lies solely with the court.
                        Are you trying to tell me that Cochran didn't know OJ was guilty? Give me a break. Cochran was an ******* who did **** for money and fame.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                        • Originally posted by asleepathewheel
                          You do realize that there is more to defending someone than trial work, don't you? I can't remember the percentage on how many defendents actually go to trial, so I'll have to speak anecdotally. Of the roughly 200 clients I've had in the past 7 monhts, only 13 have pursued trial. The rest were probably split 60-40 pleas/dismissals. Dismissals were due to either police/witness laziness failing to appear, or knowing that they were wrongful arrests (I had a 2 great trials ready last week, both cops failed to show) most of the time defense work is just negotiating out a plea favorable to both sides. I hardly see how that can be considered immoral.
                          I'm sure it's not.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                          • Thats neither here nor there Im sure he didnt care if the guy was guilty. Tatic of a good lawyer dont find out let the case unfold as it does. He did it for money?, most people work for money. Fame comment on that He was already a famed attorney before oj just not on tv
                            When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
                            "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
                            Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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                            • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                              Thats neither here nor there Im sure he didnt care if the guy was guilty.
                              Bull. You can't just say you don't care if the guy is guilty or not. If you help him get away with murder then you are partly responsible.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • what part of the statements from some of the lawyers didnt you get. They said they didnt want to know. Its their job to defend the client the best they can. And because you think in your heart oj is guilty doesnt make it true.
                                Im not here defending oj though it seems like it, but i am defending the man who is know dead for doing the best job he saw fit to get his client out of jail
                                When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
                                "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
                                Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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