I'd die for the queen, well the prince of wales definately. but only if it was really, really neccesary - if they just rang me up and said 'hey coT, its time to die for us right now', i'd have to think about it
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Isn't the royal family just a little bit silly?
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'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.
Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.
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what have royalty done to ADG? or maybe haven't done?
Is it just that they cost quite a bit to maintain? Don't you think their outdated form of royal strangeness is worth paying something for?
regular politicians are just not eccentric enough imho(and probably cost us about the same?).'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.
Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.
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My point is Monarchy is not about bloodlines per se (it is as a useful way of becoming a claimaint), its about who can wrestle the crown off of the other challengers and the politics of the day. The events of 1066 or the War of the Roses highlight my point.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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Originally posted by child of Thor
what have royalty done to ADG?
We pay a high price to make them live a luxurious life
They don't do anything we can be proud of
All their media attention just makes it much worse. I can't go outside my home without hearing something about them... why the hell should I care if someone gets married or gets pregnant or whatever???
Originally posted by child of Thor
Is it just that they cost quite a bit to maintain? Don't you think their outdated form of royal strangeness is worth paying something for?
I want to be able to vote for who I want to represent Denmark, I hate when people are born to that position. That Bush-guy is the opposite of me, but I have more respect for him than royal people because he was at least elected...This space is empty... or is it?
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Originally posted by Adagio
Let's see...
We pay a high price to make them live a luxurious life
They don't do anything we can be proud of
All their media attention just makes it much worse. I can't go outside my home without hearing something about them... why the hell should I care if someone gets married or gets pregnant or whatever???
Nope, I don't think they're worth anything. Why should I pay lots of money to make a few people live in abselute luxuriness to make them "represent" our country? I don't like how they represent us, from my point of view they're putting a negative image on this place. I'm sure that I would have a much more positive on the UK too, if they kicked out all their royal people
I want to be able to vote for who I want to represent Denmark, I hate when people are born to that position. That Bush-guy is the opposite of me, but I have more respect for him than royal people because he was at least elected...
I agree with you on the first point, i tend to picture my monarchs in a very old fashioned way, kind of leading the army into war etc and being more useful and pro-active, its that history of the monarchy that gives this lot my sometimes wavering support now. If they got back to getting their hands dirty(and not in a tabloid newspaper sense!) in the world more, then i wouldn't waver.
The second bolded point is a personel thing and maybe in our countries(and others with monarchs), maybe it would be best if we could choose to give the royal family any of our money in taxes? So those that want them pay for them? would seem a fairer way of doing things, but maybe very complicated in working out the reimbursments that the royal family bring to a nation?
Originally posted by Dauphin
My point is Monarchy is not about bloodlines per se (it is as a useful way of becoming a claimaint), its about who can wrestle the crown off of the other challengers and the politics of the day. The events of 1066 or the War of the Roses highlight my point.'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.
Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.
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Our Queen consistantly has >90% popular support in "polls", and I imagine that was also the case for her father and his father before him. And with the Crown Prince having been voted Dane of the Year 5 or 6 times already, it would seem that at least the Danes would answer the thread question with a clear and emphatic No!
Aside from Adagio of course, who's always been a little strange.
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Originally posted by Kalius
The Queen works a full-time job at the age of 70-something.
That's fairly impressive.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland
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You get long term consistency in the position of head of state, thereby vastly strengthening the position in terms of national identification. Plus the ability in most cases for the ascendant to have ample time to prepare for asuming the position, taking with him impressions and advice from the previous head of state.
You get a head of state for all of the population, not just the ones having voted for him/her in the last election.
And you get a bit of pomp and circumstance surrounding official affairs, such as state visits, jubilees, weddings etc., which is not to be laughed at, as most people love it dearly.
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"The idea of there being a 'Real' or 'rightful' Monarch is laughable IMHO."
Sounds like a Frenchie..."Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
"...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
"sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.
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Tourism Revenue?
I went to Britain to see the history there, to see the culture, to see the great museums. I didn't go there to see some Monarch, and I didn't have any interest in doing so. I really doubt anybody goes to Britain because of the Monarchy."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
"I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand
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