Schiavo Thread Part Deux

[Drake Tungsten]

It's not my fault you guys rely on TV for your information. You'd think you would've learned by now...

[GePap]

As opposed to what? The bloggosphere? Hell not. The papers? The polls.

I think pro-lifers get it wrong when they think those tapes of Terri move most people to support the parents. IN all honesty Terry Schiavo looks awful in those tapes, and I would posit that most people see those tapes and think "I would not want to live in that condition".

[Drake Tungsten]

The bloggosphere? The papers?

Both excellent sources of information, far better than TV.

[Sava]

papers are good... blogs are bad

[Drake Tungsten]

Blogs are pretty much just analysis and discussion of what's going on in the papers.

[Sava]

or a highly biased op-ed wanna be

[Drake Tungsten]

What do you think "analysis and discussion" entails? And it's not like the papers don't have their share of highly biased op-eds...

[Sava]

hahah you're trying to justify reading the equivalent of a tabloid

[Drake Tungsten]

Eh. At least I can read...

[Sava]

HAHAHAH BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY CAN'T OMFG PWNED

[Drake Tungsten]

I honestly do wonder sometimes.

[TCO]

Why don't we raise enough money to pay Micheal off and then try alternate treatment for Terri?

[Drake Tungsten]

It's not his choice anymore and hasn't been since he petitioned the court to make the decision on whether she lived or died. Paying him off won't do anything, as I'm pretty sure he couldn't change the outcome even if he wanted to.

[Sava]

Originally posted by TCO
Why don't we raise enough money to pay Micheal off and then try alternate treatment for Terri?

HAHAHA what treatment? are you going to get doctor mccoy to give her a pill to grow a nnew brain? will spock then return her katra to her body?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

this case like Habeas Corpus cases where new issues can be raised at the Federal level even after the state proceedings are final.

No it isn't. Habeas Corpus is only for criminal cases. It has no application here, and there is no analogy possible. It isn't "like Habeas Corpus" just like you want it to be. There is no basis in the law for applying Habeas Corpus to a civil case.

Imran, I sometimes wonder about you. The issue in most federal Habeas Corpus cases is the resolution of whether the petitionier's constitutional rights were violated. The Federal Courts, in reviewing these cases, is not bound by the record below. They can receive evidence, such as DNA evidence, that was not available at the time of trial for example, or agree or disagree that the evidence presented or excluded at trial was tainted in some constitutionally defective manner.

While making these determinations, the Federal Courts always issue stay orders so that executions cannot take place before the Federal proceedings are over.

Congress has the POWER under Art. III to grant the same rights to people, like Terry, who are about to be put to death by a state abeit not through a criminal procedure.