Schiavo Thread Part Deux

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap


She had an court appointed guardian to speak for her interests. What would be the point of counsel, if she could not talk with a client.

Surely you understand that a lawyer would actively test whether Michael was lying or not. I assure you, if a criminal defendent was ordered to be put to death after a trial where they were not represented by counsel, the whole proceding would be declared unconstitutional.

It is my understanding that the Guardian hired experts to check into whether there was brain activity in Terri. This is entirely different from testing the credibility of Michael and other withnesses against Terri in the proceding.

[Ramo]

That's not crazy.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/3/25/75836.html

A man has been arrested and charged with offering a $250,000 reward for killing Michael Schiavo.

Richard Alan Meywes was arrested in Fairview, North Carolina by the FBI and the Buncombe County Sheriff's Office.

On March 23, the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office forwarded an email to the FBI in Tampa which purportedly offered a $250,000 bounty on "the head of Michael Schiavo." The email placed an additional $50,000 bounty for the elimination of a judge who recently denied a request to intervene in the Schiavo case.

This is crazy.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by TCO


Also, I'm not sure if these powers of attorney are things that people really think through. I know a living will would be more obvious to me (I decide what conditions should be) than a paper ceding judgement. I saw guys on the boat get screwed hard (empty houses) by giving POA to their wives. It's one thing to lose some money. Another thing to have the plug pulled...

Do you have a brother, or a really good friend?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Im not sure why this has to be a left or right thing the parents are human, love their daughter whil doing what they are may not be the right thing for terri it seem the right thing for them

Why the sympathy for her parents but the suspicion for her husband?

[Drake Tungsten]

The parents haven't been trying to kill her for a decade...

[TCO]

Originally posted by notyoueither


You need a human you can trust, TCO.

It was part of the planning for my mother. I knew exactly what she wanted and did not, but we were both cautioned that I needed to be vigilant or various people might just go about doing their jobs as they understood them.

It boils down to you need someone who you can trust to make sure your wishes are carried out, and they need to have the paperwork to back them up.

I guess I'm ok with it if if it's someone I trust. But with the whole money behind Micheal and all that...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Dude, right wing Christians lie all the freakin time. They're evil people.

That's really what this is about for a lot of you, isn't it? You don't really care about the moral questions surrounding this issue.

You mean the moral question of not allowing the GOP to force people how to live their lives and run their families? Same ****in' people who said Elian's father should have no rights to his kid. The only reason it's about defeating the right is because the right is trying to stick its nose someplace it doesn't belong.

[Bill3000]

But they've tainted the reputation of a man trying to give his wife a rest, and are living in denial.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Why the sympathy for her parents but the suspicion for her husband?

Mostly because the parents didn't go get another daughter while she was dying.

ACK!

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap


Over the course of the last several days I have heard numbers of witnesses flatly contradict the so-called court experts on Terri's consciousness, and on whether Terri ever gave consent to her being put to death. [/q]

And they do this NOW? Where were they for the hearing? The court had three competent witnesses come up during the hearing itself- if these tons of people "know" these things, one wonders where they were when it mattered?

Now YOU are making my point as to why it was necessary for Terry to have been represent by counsel. Apparently no competent investigation was ever conducted at the time and no contrary, pro-Terri witnesses were called. The lack of counsel was a contributing factor to the legal result we have here.

[Bill3000]

Originally posted by Tuberski


Mostly because the parents didn't go get another daughter while she was dying.

ACK!

Yeah, and you expect a man to not go on with his life 15 years after his wife is in a PVS? Come on, in the movies by that time the ghost of the wife would come and tell him to move on already.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Guynemer
POA is prefered simply because it is clear--what they say goes, cut and dry.

At least, that's the way it is supposed to work, and usually does when your governor isn't named Bush.

POA is what we were told was needed, in addition to a care directive.

The POA gave me the power to decide anything that she couldn't for herself.

The care directive was necessary so that they would be less likely to put the tube down her throat when I wasn't around if/when she went to the hospital in respiratory distress.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap

Finally, there is the most recent testimony that Terri declared her wish to stay alive last Friday. Her attorney asked her to just say "I want to live." Terri exclaimed "I." Then she stuggled. Then she screamed "Wannnnnn..." Then she struggled some more and started to cry.

If this had 0 merit, the lawyer who "saw this" would have included it in a previous filing, not the last one. Its actually pretty pathetic and a wastes of the court's time. What is the punishment, if any, for filling false affidavits?

The affidavit was in support of a full hearing on the merits of this issue next week. There were more than one witness to the events described, including a cop.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Bill3000


Yeah, and you expect a man to not go on with his life 15 years after his wife is in a PVS? Come on, in the movies by that time the ghost of the wife would come and tell him to move on already.

I understand why he did it. The why doesn't make it right.

ACK!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned


Che, you are so bigoted as to be almost inhuman in you vehemence against Christians.

Ned
Christian = right-wing Christians

Che
right-wing christians = evil subset of all Christians

Thus, in Ned's mind I hate all Chrisitans, when it's only the self-righteous, evil, hypocritical bastards who want to force the rest of us to live by their bliefs I hate. And I'm allowed, cuz they want to force me to think and believe and act in ways contrary to my beliefs and desires. They are the reason I'm not a Republian anymore.