6 mo old infant taken off life support thanks to law signed by Gov. Bush

[DanS]

Maybe we should institute non-market pricing, raise taxes and fund the universities to do the work instead, commercializing their work solely through American industry.

Cut out the non-American companies who are leaching.

[Az]

communist

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by DanS
Don't I know it. The rest of the world is leaching off of the innovation created in our system.

I understand why drug companies, amongst the most profitable in the world, make this cockamamie argument but I'm surprised you buy it, lol.

We have a drug market here. What drug companies don't like is governments use their power to buy in bulk to lower prices and play the pharma companies off against each other. That is the free market at work, not socialism.

Some of the drug laws you have over there are just scandalous, keeping cheaper generic drugs off the US market long after patents have expired, thus maintaining monopolies and preventing competition, presumably you support monopolies and cartels Dan?

[Az]

You're an enemy of progress, AH! [/Ned]

[Gatekeeper]

I pay $20 via insurance for a 90-day supply of a generic blood pressure med. Thank goodness it's allowed to be marketed, because it's name-brand counterpart runs $25 for a 30-day supply.

Gatekeeper

[Alexander's Horse]

Mark ups on patent drugs are insane - up to 10,000 per cent on cost of production. The drug companies rate a little better in terms of consumer ethics than tobbaco companies, but not much.

check out this link, the 9 most profitable US companies by a wide margin are drug companies and they are raping US consumers

http://counsellingresource.com/medications/discount-drugs/

[KrazyHorse]

****ing American pharma-companies

[Az]

Hey, they need those profits for R&D!

[KrazyHorse]

Good luck with the exploding cost of medical care in the US, Dan.

8%+ average annual increase should be sustainable, right?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS
I think it extremely likely that some life-saving or life-prolonging treatments are unavailable in your systems. The government must control its costs in some fashion.

By being more efficient than the private sector, perhaps?

Though I suppose you are incapable of even considering that suggestion...

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Azazel
Hey, they need those profits for R&D!

Look up a common heart drug called Liptor - only $15 out of a $100 is R and D cost - $24 is pure profit.

[KrazyHorse]

10$ is probably advertising so that people who don't need it will still pester their doctors to give it to them...

[KrazyHorse]

DanS defending the right of the State to take people off life support to save money: priceless...

[Az]

Look up a common heart drug called Liptor - only $15 out of a $100 is R and D cost - $24 is pure profit.

Yup. I know this.

By being more efficient than the private sector, perhaps?

Though I suppose you are incapable of even considering that suggestion...

I think he finds the notion offensive.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
DanS defending the right of the State to take people off life support to save money: priceless...

Yep I'd say Dan has been seriously PWNed on this one