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  • #46
    I thought ObL is the most wanted bastard in US, so what US reaction could be in case if BBC post an article about ObL being a hero? I'm just curious.

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    • #47
      We don't care about what the BBC says (and we care even less about the Russian media).
      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
      "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
      2004 Presidential Candidate
      2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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      • #48
        I don't think so.
        Just imagine some Euros or Russians posting articles like "Osama - the honorable freedom fighter is being murdered by US imeperialist pigs" or something like that.

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        • #49
          I can't see the Russians doing that. (The French maybe...)
          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
          2004 Presidential Candidate
          2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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          • #50
            Just in case if anyone would, do you really wouldn't care about this?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Serb

              Sure, and the fact that he himself said he was involved in planning of both Nord Ost and Beslan, sure makes him a great negotiator and sure shows how unbiased and honest your media is.
              Last I checked, Maskhadov being a bastard didn't constitute proof that anyone else was any less of a bastard. Name one Chechen rebel leader that would've made a better partner for negotiations ...


              Anyway, I blame the CIA. Just to be safe. Pass me tinfoil hat.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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              • #52
                Negotiations? With loosers? You must be sh!tting me. No negotiations with terrorists. Go talk with Osama or release Saddam and start to trade with him, if you like negotiations so much. In Russia we kill terrorists not fall into their demands.
                Last edited by Serb; March 10, 2005, 09:02.

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                • #53
                  Loosers? You're losers the lot of you.

                  Why should I talk with Usama?
                  Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                  It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                  The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Last Conformist
                    Loosers? You're losers the lot of you.
                    Comparing to Iraq, Chechnya is Goddamn safe place, and still I can't recall anyone agitating US to talk with Iraqi insurgents.

                    Why should I talk with Usama?
                    Because you like negotiations with terrorists and he is obviously a terrorist.

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                    • #55
                      Domino
                      No.

                      Russia already withdrew in the mid-90s from the area. The result was massive groundwork creation of terrorist cells in mainland Russia, which came and bit them in the butt later on.

                      The hasty comparisons you're making between the motives of Putin (trying to destroy terrorists) and motives of Johnson (trying to look good on history books, "I just can't be the architecht of surrender") just show of how little you know about the subject.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Serb

                        Comparing to Iraq, Chechnya is Goddamn safe place, and still I can't recall anyone agitating US to talk with Iraqi insurgents.
                        You ****ing wish. Your armed forces really messed up in Chechnya big time.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #57

                          One word- Fezziot.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Serb

                            Comparing to Iraq, Chechnya is Goddamn safe place, and still I can't recall anyone agitating US to talk with Iraqi insurgents.

                            Obviously your memory sucks, then. And assuming you're rigjt about Chechnya being safer than Iraq, well, the Americans being even bigger losers than you, while impressive, should be cold comfort.


                            Because you like negotiations with terrorists and he is obviously a terrorist.

                            Read my posts, hippie boy. I've not said anything about the desirability of negotiating with terrorists.

                            You appear, incidentally, to've forgot the little point that it's the Chechens attacking you, not Usama attacking me.
                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Last Conformist
                              Originally posted by Serb

                              Comparing to Iraq, Chechnya is Goddamn safe place, and still I can't recall anyone agitating US to talk with Iraqi insurgents.

                              Obviously your memory sucks, then. And assuming you're rigjt about Chechnya being safer than Iraq, well, the Americans being even bigger losers than you, while impressive, should be cold comfort.
                              Please, refresh my memory.


                              Because you like negotiations with terrorists and he is obviously a terrorist.

                              Read my posts, hippie boy.

                              I've not said anything about the desirability of negotiating with terrorists.

                              You appear, incidentally, to've forgot the little point that it's the Chechens attacking you, not Usama attacking me.
                              Terrorists are attacking us. They have no nationality and only language they understand is the language of force.
                              No negotiations with them.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Serb

                                Please, refresh my memory.
                                I'm not going to dig thru a bunch of Iraq threads for your benefit, I'm sorry.
                                Terrorists are attacking us.
                                They're attacking you.
                                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                                It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                                The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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