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  • [QUOTE] Originally posted by Ramo
    The moderation shown by the UIA slate - i think its part of a process of political maturing that was far from complete under the IGC.


    You believe that SCIRI, Da'wa, etc. would've been more Islamist? Or would've taken a harsher stance towards the Sunnis? Why'd you say that?

    Im saying that if we had gone to elections in March 2004, we'd have had a major Sadr problem, and a Fallujah problem - they would have made their moves ealier than they in fact did.


    But we made the first move in both cases. Especially in Sadr's case, where we triggered the revolt by going after that Sadrist paper.


    You and I are gonna have to agree to disagree on the Sadr timeline.

    As for Fallujah, youre wrong there. Fallujah was a mess from the day we went into Iraq - IIUC it was essentially under the control of extremists from April 2003. The Marines began to make noises about chaning the policy in March 2004 when they took over from 101st AB - the insurgents took the next step by the attack on the convoys and the display of the charred bodies. The Marines reacted after that, not very effectively.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • Originally posted by DanS
      Ukraine
      Georgia
      Jose Padilla, an American citizen, locked up for 3 years without ever being charged.
      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • Ukraine's democratically elected Prime Minister...



        I'd hit it.
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        • We need some hot politicians.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • Yes, we do.
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            • Hey, we have Hillary!

              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • Ted has said he'd do Hillary.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • Hillary would be one big grudge fvck, with Hillary the one holding the grudge.

                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • Take it up with Ted, man.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • Condi's probably our best looking pol, which is kinda sad. No offense intended to Secretary Rice, of course.
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                      • Naw... Mary Bono is hotter... and that Governor of Michigan is pretty decent looking too.

                        Bono:



                        Michigan Gov Granholm:

                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • And I wouldn't kick Sen Mary Landreau out of bed:

                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • I restricted myself to politicians that matter. I remembered that Michigan's governor was alright looking but I couldn't remember her name, thereby knocking her out of the running.

                            Besides, she's a dirty Canuck. I'm talking about American pols.
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                            • But she represents a US state, so we claimed her .

                              And hot Congresswomen and Senators definetly matter... in the most important way.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • I want a hot politician who gets face time. When's the last time you saw Mary Landreau on TV?
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