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**Imran Siddiqui** · February 25, 2005, 16:02

Originally posted by Dissident
haven't you guys learned to stop getting your hopes up?

AotC was good, dammit

**Dis** · February 25, 2005, 16:45

aotc sucked ass.

would it kill them to get a child actor (the bounty hunter's annoying kid) who can act worth a ****. Or get this, how about a director who can direct?

The scene when Anakin went ballistic on those people/creatures that killed his mother could have been a very powerful scene had a good director and a good actor performed it.

That scene could have been one of the best scenes in any sci-fi movie ever. But it was wasted on a no talent director and actor. The script sucked too, but it had potential.

We already have proof Lucas is afraid of making his movies too "dark" because of his removal of the Hans shooting that guy first in the bar scene.

If he wants to accurately portray Annakins fall to the dark side, he's going to have to make it dark. Plain and simple.

I simply did not believe the evil in Anakins act when he said he killed woman and children.

amateur acting.

**Imran Siddiqui** · February 25, 2005, 16:48

No, AotC was GOOD..

Definetly better than Ewok Hell (though that wasn't bad either... stick to the swordfight at the end, George

).

**Kontiki** · February 25, 2005, 16:59

I'd say it's relative. All the Star Wars movies sucked big time if your basing them on being movies with good acting, directing or plot development, but that doesn't stop them from being hugely entertaining. True, Episode 1 sucked especially hard and Jar Jar Binks is a strong contender for the most annoying thing ever put on a movie screen, but there hasn't been a single movie out of the five that couldn't have been alot better with some better casting choices, a competent director and some serious tweaks to the storyline. So all in all, I'll echo Imran and say AoTC was pretty solid, as long as you're only measuring it against other Star Wars fare.

**hexagonian** · February 25, 2005, 16:59

Originally posted by Dissident
We already have proof Lucas is afraid of making his movies too "dark" because of his removal of the Hans shooting that guy first in the bar scene.

After looking at the linked site in this thread, I cautiously have hope that Lucas will be moving over to the 'dark' side - at least a lot darker than he has done so far.

Almost wished that I hadn't seen it - curse my nosiness...

**Imran Siddiqui** · February 25, 2005, 17:07

I'll echo Imran and say AoTC was pretty solid, as long as you're only measuring it against other Star Wars fare.

It isn't great moviemaking, but it is great fun. Like pulp sci-fi may be fun, but it isn't War & Peace.

**Dis** · February 25, 2005, 17:10

either way, I'll wait for word of mouth and reviews. Definately not a movie I will see in the first week.

While it is true the original trilogy wasn't that good, I think they are better movies. Ep 1 and 2 just don't do anything for me. I felt they were boring. Neither had the energy of the first 3. Perhaps if I was a kid I could enjoy them.

Which leads me to my final point. Star wars movies are kids movies. Perhaps the only reason I lik episodes 4-6 was because I was a kid when I first saw them. I only like them now because of nostaligia. And it's the reason why I don't like episodes 1-2.

But when it all comes down to it, you need good characters, and at least someone competant to deliver the lines. Harrison Ford was that guy. Episodes 4-6 were better than 1 and 2 because of Harrison Ford. And I'll say it right now, Star Wars would not have been as popular if he (or at least his character) wasn't in those films. So if they could somehow come up with a character as good as Han Solo's character, they may have a chance.

**Imran Siddiqui** · February 25, 2005, 17:15

Star wars movies are kids movies. Perhaps the only reason I lik episodes 4-6 was because I was a kid when I first saw them. I only like them now because of nostaligia.

And the first time I saw them was in my mid teens. Just because you have one experience doesn't mean everyone else in the world has the same experiences.

So if they could somehow come up with a character as good as Han Solo's character, they may have a chance.

What Obi-Wan is chopped liver? Ewan McGregor is a better actor than Harrison Ford and has done a wonderful job so far.

How can you be soooo wrong in the past week? On just about every thread you've posted this week.. just wrong, wrong, wrong.

**Dis** · February 25, 2005, 17:53

I'm not wrong about Harrison Ford being a better actor. At least in the star wars movies (I haven't seen MacGregor's other work).

**Wycoff** · February 25, 2005, 18:23

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui AotC was good, dammit

The guy who played Anakin in AoTC (Hayden Christiansen?) was a terrible actor, and did much to ruin the movie. He wasn't average, he wasn't even disappointing, he was a complete disgrace. Also, why did they cast a guy who looked like a boy-band wannabee? Wasn't Darth Vader supposed to be 6' 5" and about 275 punds? How could Hayden Christiansen fill out the Vader armor?

I agree with Diss that Hayden ruined the scene where he flipped out and killed the sand people. The scene called for a man in a hate-filled, genocidal bloodlust. Christiansen played it like a whiney brat.

Overall, I think that the Star Wars franchise took a dive the moment that Lucas decided to replace Wookies (who were originally supposed to be on Endor) with Ewoks. That is when he sold out the franchise. A New Hope was excellent, and Empire was even better. However, Jedi was awful and Phantom Menace was even worse. I admit that AoTC was better than Phantom, but it still wasn't very good IMO.

**reds4ever** · February 25, 2005, 18:55

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

AotC was good, dammit

Imran, Imran

you have to realize it's simply not 'cool' to like the prequels and no matter how good this next film is, it'll get slated by the nerdy Internet nit-pickers

**Imran Siddiqui** · February 25, 2005, 19:57

I don't care what the idiot nit-pickers and 'cool' people say. AotC was a good Star Wars movies. People are all nostalgic and think much more highly the originals. It was a better movie than RotJ.

As for Hayden Christiansen. He is no worse than Mark Hamill, who was piss poor.

**Bosh** · February 25, 2005, 20:00

Originally posted by reds4ever

Imran, Imran

you have to realize it's simply not 'cool' to like the prequels and no matter how good this next film is, it'll get slated by the nerdy Internet nit-pickers

Nit-picking hell. The romance scences were so horrifically bad that I couldn't even sit through them long enough to get to the sword fighting bits.

**reds4ever** · February 25, 2005, 20:21

Originally posted by Boshko

Nit-picking hell. The romance scences were so horrifically bad that I couldn't even sit through them long enough to get to the sword fighting bits.

If a may point your attention to a button on your DVD remote control........

And I suppose the Hobbits were the wrong size in LOTR?

**Kuciwalker** · February 25, 2005, 20:26

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Originally posted by Sprayber
Here is something I came across on the net. I don't know if the Star Wars fans here have seen these pictures but here they are.

Warning they may contain spoilers for you if you havent been up on the Star Wars scene.

http://www.lewed.net/ep3/index.html

WTF?! Those proto-X-Wings should be Headhunters, not some bastard thing with six wings. And that Star Destroyer does NOT look like a VSD, nor does the long ship look like a Dreadnaught

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