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Why would Ramo post such an obvious lie?
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He wasn't always wealthy, doofus."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Originally posted by Berzerker
I dont know Drake, the measure of a man may depend on how many victims are lined up before God on Judgement Day with their fingers pointing at him. Hunter will likely have far fewer people condemning him on that day, Bush will have millions...
Better to use drugs and not put millions in cages than be sober while you cage millions for doing what you did... I believe hypocrisy is God's voice speaking to us when we wrong others, hence the golden rule, do unto others.
"Millions in cages"?
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On the other hand, Bush will have millions vouching for him. Do good deeds, even if done with ulterior motives, negate the voices of dissent? Does making the trains run on time absolve one for their mis-deeds?Comment
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Yes Drake, the millions of people Bush has jailed and will jail for doing what he did. Why is that
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I don't believe it is proper to punish people for using drugs.
By repenting of an action and changing your ways, I believe, your slate is wiped clean. In the case of a former gangster who turned his life around and later became a judge, his actions are in his past.
Punishing offenders is a nessecary function for society to be stable, and can be done by the legitimate authorities. In fact, even if someone is secretly commititng an offense, while in the position of holding legal authority he is still commited to punish them, although he is also committed to cease offending.
To, condemn a person is another matter entirely. To judge an offender as a bad or low quality person is something we should never do, whether we commited the offense or not."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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Yes Drake, the millions of people Bush has jailed and will jail for doing what he did. Why is that
They're poor enough to be incarcerated for their drug use and not properly treated, so worthless."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Punishing offenders is a nessecary function for society to be stable, and can be done by the legitimate authorities. In fact, even if someone is secretly commititng an offense, while in the position of holding legal authority he is still commited to punish them, although he is also committed to cease offending.
Why isn't he committed to punishing himself?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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The fact that you consider Bush personally culpable for the imprisonment of people based on drug laws that predate Bush's presidency and will exist after his term is over is a bit laughable, isn't it?Originally posted by Berzerker
Yes Drake, the millions of people Bush has jailed and will jail for doing what he did. Why is that
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The fact that you consider Bush personally culpable for the imprisonment of people based on drug laws that predate Bush's presidency and will exist after his term is over is a bit laughable, isn't it?
Yes, the President having the bully pulpit over new legislation and the ability to offer pardons, what a laughable idea!"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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In a hypothetical situation where a judge got to impose a sentence on himself for a crime he comitted, he would be comitted to punishing himself.Originally posted by Ramo
Punishing offenders is a nessecary function for society to be stable, and can be done by the legitimate authorities. In fact, even if someone is secretly commititng an offense, while in the position of holding legal authority he is still commited to punish them, although he is also committed to cease offending.
Why isn't he committed to punishing himself?"I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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Berz is lucky you're participating in this thread, Ramo. He can say whatever he wants and still be the reasonable (not to mention honest) one...
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But can we really diagnose his repentance? Truthfully, believe him when he pleads, "I am repentant!"By repenting of an action and changing your ways, I believe, your slate is wiped clean. In the case of a former gangster who turned his life around and later became a judge, his actions are in his past.
We all believe the same thing, really. Forgive and forget. The point upon which everyone disagrees is if the criminal is really worthy of forgiveness.meet the new boss, same as the old bossComment
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But how can this person jail others for doing what he did? It doesn't matter if he has repented and changed, when Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", he didn't tell them to go and change their ways before punishing the adulteress. Even Jesus refused to punish the woman and if anyone was "qualified", he was...By repenting of an action and changing your ways, I believe, your slate is wiped clean. In the case of a former gangster who turned his life around and later became a judge, his actions are in his past.
Jesus' way of removing specks was far different than how most Christians do it today; for example, turn the other cheek does not = jail the SOB who smacked you.
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Berz is lucky you're participating in this thread, Ramo. He can say whatever he wants and still be the reasonable (not to mention honest) one...
I'm sorry if I'm not disparaging recently deceased people as "nothing" because they used drugs. I'm not as reasonable or honest as you.
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