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  • #76
    The Euro is a good move as long as the 25 national economies are intigrated well enough so that you don't have some countries over heating and others in recession. Since the members gave up control of monitary policy the main economic controls the members will have is tax policy, the amount of regulation, and deficit spending. It's the possible deficit spending which could get the Euro into trouble if some members spend was more then they make then it could drag the whole Euro down.

    Luckily for you folks we have Bush screwing up our finances here in the US so you folks will look good in comparision.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Oerdin
      It's the possible deficit spending which could get the Euro into trouble if some members spend was more then they make then it could drag the whole Euro down.
      If only we did this...

      We have lost considerable competitivity since the dollar started to fall. And of course, to make for the loss, the employees are pressure more and more acutely for the sake of a "competitivity" we could have if we weren't so fricking obsessed with monetary stability.
      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
      "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
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      • #78
        Competitive currency devaluations was one of the big reasons for the depression in the 20s & 30s. They're not a good idea as they destroy a lot of accumulated capital.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Spiffor

          That 152.40 € and you know it

          It just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
          Especially not since it should be €152.40.

          Did you guys use "sac" too?
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          • #80
            Originally posted by alva
            Did you guys use "sac" too?
            Yep, for 10 Francs IIRC.

            I never had too much money when the Franc was around, so I'm not really familiar with any slang that encompasses more than one franc
            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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            • #81
              That 152.40 € and you know it

              It just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
              i just dont see why they dont use 'balle' for the euro.
              "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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              • #82
                Originally posted by The Andy-Man



                Personaly, i htink that if your going to have a referendum that significantly changes and effects a nations sovereighnty, then it should require 75% of the electorate to agree.

                That doesn't mean 75% of thee vote is yes, it means 75% of registered voters.
                I wonder when was the last time 75% of registered voters voted for ANYTHING in ANY country

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                • #83
                  australia.
                  "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                  • #84
                    Btw, when you talk about Euros, what do you call the cents? Do you just say 153.40 Euros or 153 Euros and 40 ____ (and what is in that blank?)
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #85
                      Cents. * sigh *

                      i just dont see why they dont use 'balle' for the euro.

                      It just don't work for some reason. Perhaps it has to do with the unfamiliarity of it(which will never go away btw). The moment you use slang people automaticcal assume you're talking 'bout "old" money.
                      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                      • #86
                        Mwahah... we've infected Europe with 'cents' . Even though it's probably originally from French, through Latin .
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #87
                          Not really, we used to have centimes before too but they weren't really used anymore.
                          I often threw them away (the 25cent coins were very little), in one instance one of the little buggers got stuck in my washing machine and it cost me something like a 100€ to get it out.


                          1 old belgian Franc = 1/40€
                          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            Mwahah... we've infected Europe with 'cents' . Even though it's probably originally from French, through Latin .
                            Don't count on it, Yank.

                            We the French (and we're not the only ones) especially fought for the right to use the old word for the centile division, without having to switch to the monstrous, Americaqn-based, and plainly ugly "cent". In France, pretty much everybody calls them "centimes" like before, and I think it is a trend that can be seen in other countries as well (though not with the French word but their own, obviously)
                            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Maniac
                              In Dutch: versterkte samenwerking)
                              In German: Verstärkte Samenwirkung.

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                              • #90
                                I think the EU should bow to the wisdom of the Brits in this instance and go with an unwritten constitution. The bottom line is that an unwritten constitution says whatever the government wants it to say. Talk about flexibility! Amend it? You can't even ratify it!
                                He's got the Midas touch.
                                But he touched it too much!
                                Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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