Republicans to Become Communists

[The Mad Monk]

The PRC has as much claim over Taiwan as the Russian Federation has over Khazikstan. Less, actually, since they have no connection to the Chinese government that did have claim over it.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
The PRC has as much claim over Taiwan as the Russian Federation has over Khazikstan. Less, actually, since they have no connection to the Chinese government that did have claim over it.

I don't see how the link between the PRC and imperial China is any less than the link between the Russian Federation and Tsarist or Soviet Russia.

[The Mad Monk]

The Russians were able to back their claim with steel. The PRC wasn't.

[The Mad Monk]

When the Communists took over Russia, they had to reconquer the territory, and they did, in spite of what the world threw against them. That's why they owned it, even without a "legitimate" handover from the Tsars.

The Russian Federation was the result of a (mostly) peaceful handover of power from the old USSR. Note that the territory is much smaller. The reason it is much smaller, however you may wish to candycoat it, is that they were incapable of holding the larger territory, and knew it, so they let it go.

The PRC dosen't own Taiwan because they couldn't take it, not in fifty years.

[GePap]

What is this Taiwan? You guys mean The Republic of China?

Maybe you guys should start studying the ROC Constitution and what is says about the Island and its connection to Mainland China- last I remember, it states categorically that the Island IS part of China, it just disagrees about which of the two governments if the rightful government of the whole thing _ heck, I remmber this time when the China seat in the UN was held by the ROC, not the PRC.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by GePap
What is this Taiwan? You guys mean The Republic of China?

Maybe you guys should start studying the ROC Constitution and what is says about the Island and its connection to Mainland China- last I remember, it states categorically that the Island IS part of China, it just disagrees about which of the two governments if the rightful government of the whole thing _ heck, I remmber this time when the China seat in the UN was held by the ROC, not the PRC.

You of all should know better. After WW II Chiang was getting his a$$ kick by the Commie, so he needed a place to go, so he invaded Taiwan and kill thousand to take control of the Island and of course rename it, The Republic of China. It was then that the PRC later claim that Taiwan was part of China.
A bit of history. When the Dutch arrived in 1680 or so, not one Chinese person lived on the Island. All of the people were Polynesians and they told the Dutch that their Grandfather, Grandfather had lived on the Island.
They also said that from time to time Chinese Pirates would used the Island to hide from the Chinese Navy. It was the Dutch that brought the Chinese to the Island to work (Slaves) for the Dutch.
I support a free and Independence Taiwan.
I have been there.

[:) Smiley]

There is an ongoing process to change the constitution to reflect present day conditions, already, the provincial level government has been eliminated.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Joseph
You of all should know better. After WW II Chiang was getting his a$$ kick by the Commie, so he needed a place to go, so he invaded Taiwan and kill thousand to take control of the Island and of course rename it, The Republic of China. It was then that the PRC later claim that Taiwan was part of China.
A bit of history. When the Dutch arrived in 1680 or so, not one Chinese person lived on the Island. All of the people were Polynesians and they told the Dutch that their Grandfather, Grandfather had lived on the Island.
They also said that from time to time Chinese Pirates would used the Island to hide from the Chinese Navy. It was the Dutch that brought the Chinese to the Island to work (Slaves) for the Dutch.
I support a free and Independence Taiwan.
I have been there.

What Joseph said.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Joseph
After WW II Chiang was getting his a$$ kick by the Commie, so he needed a place to go, so he invaded Taiwan and kill thousand to take control of the Island and of course rename it, The Republic of China. It was then that the PRC later claim that Taiwan was part of China.

I don't know which universe you live in, but it is not ours.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Smiley
There is an ongoing process to change the constitution to reflect present day conditions, already, the provincial level government has been eliminated.

That's several years back when Lee messed around to get rid of Sung. That led to him exiting from the KMT and splintering the party, giving Chen an easy shot at the presidency.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't know which universe you live in, but it is not ours.

If by "ours" you mean "the Party's", then yes, you are correct!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
If by "ours" you mean "the Party's", then yes, you are correct!

[Kuciwalker]

100-nil!

[The Andy-Man]

what about tibet?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
100-nil!

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