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  • #91
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    I'm guessing you are only other Matchbox 20 fan on this site... you are relegated to music craptitude as well .
    Sounds like somebody can't construct an argument to save his life.

    I see those philosophy courses helped you a lot.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #92
      they're still at 0 Grammy's


      Um... not quite.

      And Thomas gets 1/2s at best. That Grammy was really for Santana. It could have been Cookie Monster singing, and the instrument playing alone would have gotten the award.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #93
        By the way, Imran: here's a new homepage for you: http://www.robthomasmusic.com/rob1.html

        Rob Thomas' solo album is coming out April 19th.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Asher
          Sounds like somebody can't construct an argument to save his life.

          I see those philosophy courses helped you a lot.
          Because the quoted post by Jaguar was really an argument.

          And it may surprise you, but I only took one philosophy course, and I can still argue circles around you. Imagine if I took more than that .
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            Um... not quite.

            And Thomas gets 1/2 at best. That Grammy was really for Santana. It could have been Cookie Monster singing, and the instrument playing alone would have gotten the award.
            Shows just how little you know, grasshoppah -- Santana didn't share that award with Rob Thomas.

            Santana didn't write a single bit of that song, it was written primarily by Rob Thomas, with the guitar licks written by Itaal Shur. It was also originally intended to be sung by George Michael, but Santana liked Rob Thomas' version best...
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #96
              Which award are you talking about? Santana has got two Grammy's on his mantle for that year.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                Which award are you talking about? Santana has got two Grammy's on his mantle for that year.
                Rob Thomas got the Songwriter award.

                Nevermind, you're clearly out of your element.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  And it may surprise you, but I only took one philosophy course, and I can still argue circles around you. Imagine if I took more than that .
                  It's funny, because I've taken 3 philosophy courses...
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #99
                    Access Denied
                    http://www.grammy.com/awards/search/index.aspx


                    Type Rob Thomas in there.

                    Give him 1/2 for them (if you think he would have won without Santana or the guitar licks you are out of your gourd)... Green Day's got him beat (by a 1/2).

                    PWNED again!

                    Mr. Thomas should probably just see if he can stick around playing with Santana... his band is just crap in comparison.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #100
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      Access Denied
                      http://www.grammy.com/awards/search/index.aspx


                      Type Rob Thomas in there.

                      Give him 1/2 for them (if you think he would have won without Santana or the guitar licks you are out of your gourd)... Green Day's got him beat (by a 1/2).

                      PWNED again!
                      How do you figure?

                      Green Day = 1
                      Rob Thomas = 3 awards (giving him 1/2 would be 1.5)

                      1.5 > 1

                      What a stupid argument, Imran...

                      My point was that because they won a grammy doesn't mean they're good, and I was using the Rob Thomas example because I know you hate him, and yet he's won grammies.

                      And if you think simple guitar links could get Santana a hit song, you'd be wrong...he couldn't write a song to save his life. Why do you think he brings in all of the other competent songwriters? Santana was a washed-up hack before Smooth brought him back into the modern era, the song would've gone nowhere without Rob Thomas. Period.

                      BTW, the producer of that song was Matt Serletic, the producer (and occasionally songwriter/musician) on MB20's albums.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #101
                        Green Day = 1




                        1994 - Best Alternative Music Performance
                        2005 - Best Rock Album

                        2 > 1.5

                        My point was that because they won a grammy doesn't mean they're good, and I was using the Rob Thomas example because I know you hate him, and yet he's won grammies.


                        No, I hate Matchbox 20... you fail to listen. I got nothing against Thomas (well, except that he heads that crap). If he can get some good musicians behind him, he can be fine.

                        And if you think simple guitar links could get Santana a hit song, you'd be wrong


                        It's done him well enough to get him into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                          1994 - Best Alternative Music Performance
                          2005 - Best Rock Album

                          2 > 1.5
                          Your site only mentions 1994 - Best Alternative Music Performance...

                          No, I hate Matchbox 20... you fail to listen. I got nothing against Thomas (well, except that he heads that crap). If he can get some good musicians behind him, he can be fine.
                          http://wm.atlrec.com/robthomas/video/lonelynomore_2nd_spot_a_300.wmv


                          It's done him well enough to get him into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
                          In a different era.

                          Honestly Imran, if he was good by himself, he'd not have asked for help from people like Rob Thomas.

                          Mick Jagger has respect for Thomas and is actually his friend, as well. IIRC, you liked the Stones...
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #103
                            Your site only mentions 1994 - Best Alternative Music Performance...


                            Cause it doesn't include this year's winners yet... since they kind of just happened like Sunday.

                            404: This page could not be found
                            http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/47winners.aspx


                            if he was good by himself, he'd not have asked for help from people like Rob Thomas.


                            Are you claiming that Ray Charles wasn't good by himself (refering to the "Genius Loves Company" album)? That's an absurd position. Artists kind of like jamming with others when they get to that exalted 'god-like' position.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              Cause it doesn't include this year's winners yet... since they kind of just happened like Sunday.

                              http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/47winners.aspx
                              Well, you sure did pwn me then, what with using your own source which turned out to be wrong...

                              I explicitly asked earlier if they won any awards this year, and I also said I did not follow them...yet you didn't volunteer that information...

                              And if you're going to divide Thomas' recognition in half because it was a collaboration, I expect you to do the same with Green Day's members...what is that, 1/4?

                              Are you claiming that Ray Charles wasn't good by himself (refering to the "Genius Loves Company" album)? That's an absurd position. Artists kind of like jamming with others when they get to that exalted 'god-like' position.
                              Jesus Imran, maybe I was wrong about this whole philosophy thing -- you honestly do need some help with your thinking abilities and argument building.

                              I'm not familiar with Ray Charles' work, and I never said a damn thing about him.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #105
                                Anyone dissing Carlos Santana needs his head examined. He's one of the all time greats and, unlike many of his contemporaries, still cranks out brilliant stuff. I dare anyone to go to a Santana concert and not be entertained.

                                C'mon Asher, Santana is fantastic - one of the all time best American rock guitarists.
                                Only feebs vote.

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