Could You Be Violent If You Had To?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Sprayber
I know what you mean. Lots of confident people when the question is just pretend.

I've seen people I would never have expected just stand there when an explosion goes off or people start shooting. One fellow I had to grab and yank down behind the hesco barrier because he was just standing there with his mouth open.

Commiting actual violence is pretty easy. You just aim and squeeze. Turburski has another point about some people getting so excited they just start spraying bullets every where. They got the squeeze part but forgot the aim part.

[Jon Miller]

I love the

I don't want to fight, and am really pacifistic, and have never founght. But people better watch out because if needed I will fight and be a crazy killing machine.

which is what everyone is saying

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

I should probably have included flip out somewhere

Jon Miller

[Dinner]

I don't recall ever saying anything like that.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Locutus
I'm one of the most pacifist persons you'll ever meet, with a physique to match. I literally wouldn't hurt a fly (instead, if it's bothering me, I'll catch it and release it somewhere where it can't bother me anymore). Everyone around me (possibly bar my parents) probably thinks I'm completely incapable of any kind of violence and would get my arse royally kicked if I ever got in a fight.

But in reality that's a farce, a thick layer of self-discipline to hide my true nature: in my childhood one wrong word or look was enough for a good pummeling. A lot of kids and a few adults in primary school and in the neighbourhood where I grew up still have scars and renmants of broken bones as souvenir from me. When I was pissed off, I was a vicious uncontrollable animal and friend nor foe, child nor adult was safe from me.

Of course, that made it hard to make any friends and to get anyone to like or trust me, so over the years I grew over that and learned to control myself through self-discipline. People who didn't know better have tried to test me on numerous occassions but haven't succeeded in the last 12+ years. One of the primary reasons why I don't drink alcohol is exactly this: I know it will lower my self-control beyond safe levels.

But if it ever really becomes a matter of real necessity, I can still let go of that control and let the animal out. And then noone will be safe (including innocent bystanders, unfortunately) and it will take nothing short of complete incapacitation or 'victory' to stop me. I doubt I'm a very capable fighter (I have neither the physique nor the training) but I'm extremely persistent and very resistant to pain, and in the right state of mind I'm quite sure I'm capable of deadly force (which is something that scares the sh*t out of me).

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[Whoha]

Re: Could You Be Violent If You Had To?

Originally posted by Sprayber
Could you use violence against someone if you were presented with no other way out of a situation where you or someone you loved would be either killed or bruttally attacked

You can't run
You can't reason with them
You can't count on anyone help from authorities

Are you going to lay down and die or allow your loved one to be harmed or are you going to defend yourself using violence.

the struggle for me is not using violence to resolve life's issues. you absolutely can not lose your cool, or it will cost you.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
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Ahh, you meant certain individuals have said that. When you said everyone I thought you were including everyone.

[Cruddy]

Yep. No problem.

In fact, no problem since I was first stabbed, aged 6.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Ahh, you meant certain individuals have said that. When you said everyone I thought you were including everyone.

poetic license]

JM

[Verres]

I would if I had to.

My friend and I attacked a bloke a couple of weeks ago when he tried to steal my phone as we left a club. We just shoved him against a wall and drew blood with our nails on his arm until he let go of it.

If we had been sober we'd probably have let him get away with it.....but we were not in the mood to be ****ed around. If provoked, I will always use violence - and in a case of self-defense/defending someone I loved, I wouldn't even think twice; I reckon its a semi-instinctive reaction.

[Pekka]

Was there leather/PVC clothes included, lots of NASTY language, erotic tensions and strong make up involved?

Anyway, people in here talk as if violence is a bad thing. I mean, yeah it is, but part of it is exciting.

[SpencerH]

A better question might be "Could you be non-violent if you had to"?

Answer: Are you joking or what ******* ******** ****** ?

[Last Conformist]

It's not like I need anything like that level of provokation to initiate physical violence.

I'm a nervous person with drastic reflexes. I once KO'd my brother because he reached for a ketchup bottle with a bit more speed than I was prepared for. When I realized what was happening he was already falling towards the floor.

[Pekka]

Last Conformist, man you are a cookie head!!!!!

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I love the

I don't want to fight, and am really pacifistic, and have never founght. But people better watch out because if needed I will fight and be a crazy killing machine.

which is what everyone is saying

Jon Miller

1) Exactly 2 people have said that in this thread (me and DRoseDARs). Far from everyone.

2) I never said I've never fought. I've been in hundreds of fights. The last time was just a long time ago (fortunately).

3) People need not look out for me at all, 'cuz I don't hurt a fly. Only if there's really, really, really no alternative would I ever go violent. I would prefer taking a few punches over fighting back (I've been there), so it would really have to be a life-or-death situation.

4) I'm by no means a killing machine. As I said, I have neither the physique nor the training to fight well. Against half-decent and/or multiple opponents I would probably get my arse kicked, but that wouldn't stop me from trying to return the favour.