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  • #31
    Yes, and have...
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    • #32
      Originally posted by KrazyHorse
      When my blood's up I know I have the capability to hurt somebody. After it's over, though, I sit around and shake for a half hour.
      Hyper-adrenal come down, I have that too. But I'm devestating while it's on.

      And to answer the question, yes. I'm even willing to be violent when it isn't absolutely necessary.
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      • #33
        Anyone up for some ultra-violence?
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        • #34
          I've never been in such a situation, so I don' t know... but I believe that if I come in that situation I'll just end up doing nothing unless I'm 100% sure that no innocents could get harmed if I attack

          It's not that I would freeze, but because I know my abilities and that I probably wont be able to help the situation
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          • #35
            Yes, I would and have once. Nor deadly force obviously, but I have defended myself when attacked by a group of guys. They ended up in hospital with a broken wrist (he had a can of mace, wasn't going to let him use it), a broken nose and some bust ribs. They never bothered me afterwards anymore (I was 17).

            Since then noone has threathened me anymore anywhere, probably large due to bulking up slightly (6'5", 225lbs, not much in the way of fat).

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            • #36
              Yes, I have a history of violence.

              I think I would try to keep it in check, even if faced with an attacker, however. I know I have the potential of being violent, but I'm not sure that I'd use it - it's really circumstantial, I suppose, and up to the split second actions and reactions of that exact moment in time when it happens.

              However, I don't think I would get violent with someone who had a gun under many circumstances at all, even if I wasn't trying to keep a check on my self control.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by DaShi
                Anyone up for some ultra-violence?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Oerdin
                  You'd be amazed how many people freeze when the chips are down.
                  Maybe so, but sometimes it only lasts a moment. For the untrained, it takes the brain a moment to register what's happening.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                    After it's over, though, I sit around and shake for a half hour.
                    That's natural. It's the adrenaline.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #40
                      I certainly have been violent in the past. But the OP frames it as a life or death situation, which I've never been faced with. I'd like to think so, but I suppose it depends on the circumstances.
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                      • #41
                        I dont really know. The two occasions Ive been mugged I let my reason control, and reason said that giving up a wallet in a situation where i was, in one instance outsized, and in one instance out numbered, was the rational thing to do. Of course in those cases it was only a wallet at stake.

                        The closest Ive come to a Supercitizen situation was at grad school, which was in a rough neighborhood. I was walking to the library, in the evening, heard noises from the bushes, and walked toward them. A guy took off down the block, and a girl (another student, whom I didnt know) emerged, saying she was alright, nothing had happened yet when he ran off. I suspect I was very lucky he ran rather than stood to fight - i have no idea what I would have done had he not run.
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                        • #42
                          I'm one of the most pacifist persons you'll ever meet, with a physique to match. I literally wouldn't hurt a fly (instead, if it's bothering me, I'll catch it and release it somewhere where it can't bother me anymore). Everyone around me (possibly bar my parents) probably thinks I'm completely incapable of any kind of violence and would get my arse royally kicked if I ever got in a fight.

                          But in reality that's a farce, a thick layer of self-discipline to hide my true nature: in my childhood one wrong word or look was enough for a good pummeling. A lot of kids and a few adults in primary school and in the neighbourhood where I grew up still have scars and renmants of broken bones as souvenir from me. When I was pissed off, I was a vicious uncontrollable animal and friend nor foe, child nor adult was safe from me.

                          Of course, that made it hard to make any friends and to get anyone to like or trust me, so over the years I grew over that and learned to control myself through self-discipline. People who didn't know better have tried to test me on numerous occassions but haven't succeeded in the last 12+ years. One of the primary reasons why I don't drink alcohol is exactly this: I know it will lower my self-control beyond safe levels.

                          But if it ever really becomes a matter of real necessity, I can still let go of that control and let the animal out. And then noone will be safe (including innocent bystanders, unfortunately) and it will take nothing short of complete incapacitation or 'victory' to stop me. I doubt I'm a very capable fighter (I have neither the physique nor the training) but I'm extremely persistent and very resistant to pain, and in the right state of mind I'm quite sure I'm capable of deadly force (which is something that scares the sh*t out of me).
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                          • #43
                            yes, have and will and keep on loving it!
                            In da butt.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DaShi
                              Anyone up for some ultra-violence?


                              UltraViolence? But that's illegal to anyone under 80! You are corrupting the minds of youth, youngling.
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                              • #45
                                he is he is he is... let's go for milk me fellows o' beating lovers bring your canes your canes..
                                In da butt.
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