When Bush hatred makes you a moron...

[GePap]

As for Bush hatred- it is difficult sometimes to think straight when thinking about that waste of human protoplasm. I can see how overly emotionally or non-intellectual types would go off the deep end with it.

[Dinner]

I'm still waiting for that practical solution but all I hear is whining.

Edit: Not you Gepap. I'm speaking to the young agast filled ones.

[Sava]

wow this thread really blew up... 30 or so posts since I last checked!

[Kidlicious]

The thing that I would really like to see is the US become less hostile, and drop all this realpolitic ****. This kind of attitude is the problem.

[laurentius]

Practical solution would be a global disarmament, starting from NK then going to USA, Russia, China etc

But I guess that would be too boring for the Americans. Lets bully everyone instead!

[Agathon]

These people think it's all right for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

I don't care if they do. The only reason for not having them would be that there are better things to spend their money on.

If they get them, they can't use them.

Why are you complaining about Iran? Pakistan has nuclear weapons already and has Islamists all through the place, and has had people selling nuclear technology to all and sundry.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by laurentius
Mrs. Tuberski. Noone else obviously, I mean USA is the country GOD created just to guard other nations

Aww how not-nice it would be if someone would carpet bomb your back yard, well it surely is better to carpet bomb those sand ******s back yards in Baghdad first. [/QUOTE
I never said all of that you guys seem to think that the us is this big bad horrible country. I will agree we have no business in the affairs of other countries govt. But I ask you this who would say the govt of your country be asking for help if sadam bombed you.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Agathon

These people think it's all right for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Why are you complaining about Iran? Pakistan has nuclear weapons already and has Islamists all through the place, and has had people selling nuclear technology to all and sundry.

Didn't you hear? Iranians are Teh EVIL!

Iran would be no more dangerous with nukes than Pakistan would be.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


So say those without morals. Good luck convincing those of use that do of this. No one is likely to listen to you at all.

there goes kid climbing up on his white horse. Talking all about morality when he is talking about political entities. Nice fairy land you live in kid, keep your dream alive while the rest of us live in the real world

[Dinner]

Originally posted by laurentius
Practical solution would be a global disarmament, starting from NK then going to USA, Russia, China etc

But I guess that would be too boring for the Americans. Lets bull everyone instead!

Nice, but we've already established that won't work due to cheaters. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and India have already agreed to disarm and not seek nukes in the past, but, we both know that piece of paper didn't stop them. China, North Korea, Israel, India, and Pakistan won't get rid of theirs so what good does it do the west & Russia to get rid of theirs? We'd only weaken our position.

Instead we leverage our superior position to encourage acceptable behavior and punish unacceptable behavior.

[Agathon]

I can see why the Iranians would want nuclear weapons. The worlds only superpower hates them and they are surrounded by other hostile regimes, three of which have nuclear weapons.

Jeez... I'd want them if I were them.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by laurentius
Practical solution would be a global disarmament, starting from NK then going to USA, Russia, China etc

HOW. Tell us your great plan for disarmament. Tell us your plan on talking to the N. Koreans and Iran.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Sprayber
there goes kid climbing up on his white horse. Talking all about morality when he is talking about political entities. Nice fairy land you live in kid, keep your dream alive while the rest of us live in the real world

The real world isn't all that bad, thanks to people like us.

[GePap]

The simpler fact is the US can't really stop Iran from getting nukes if they want them- so the only question is, what will make Iran stop wanting nukes? The current regime faces a hostile superpower, two neighboring states in transition, a dicy domestic situation, and has several nuclear neighbors or near neighbors. Why wouldn't Tehran want nukes?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Agathon
I can see why the Iranians would want nuclear weapons. The worlds only superpower hates them and they are surrounded by other hostile regimes, three of which have nuclear weapons.

Jeez... I'd want them if I were them.

They have every right to want them. Fiji would have every right to want them if they thought they needed the, Just as we have every right to make their life a living hell for trying to get them or give them bribes to get rid of them..